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lunarian

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35% and 70% on the same book?
Posted: Jun 14, 2012 9:55 AM
 
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I am seeing both 35% and 70% Transition Type in my sales reports. What's the deal? Why is that?
monkey2009

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Re: 35% and 70% on the same book?
Posted: Jun 14, 2012 10:13 AM   in response to: lunarian in response to: lunarian
 
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It depends where the book was bought. Some regions have the 35% only so I understand. So someone usuing an amazon.com that isnt based in US (perhaps canada?) would get you 35%. i have the same on one so i assume it is that. As you cant see who or where the specific sales are I think it is just something that happens.
killerjer

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Re: 35% and 70% on the same book?
Posted: Jul 1, 2012 7:38 AM   in response to: monkey2009 in response to: monkey2009
 
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I just had the same thing happen to me - no idea why. I am in the US, w/ a 70% royalty rate, and I have previously sold books in the UK - and those were also booked at a 70% rate.

I cannot tell where these recent books were sold - I have only seen that indicated on the monthly reports (Excel downloads), which seem to become available about 2 months after the relevant month-end.

Also - just to confuse things a bit - these recent sales now show up on different dates than I originally saw them occur. E.g., I originally saw the last one show up on 6/26 - and now it shows up in the 6-week display as 6/30.

I doubt that is ANY help! - but, you're not alone.
killerjer

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Re: 35% and 70% on the same book?
Posted: Jul 1, 2012 7:40 PM   in response to: killerjer in response to: killerjer
 
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Check this out:

https://kdp.amazon.com/self-publishing/help?topicId=A29FL26OKE7R7B

That's the 'Pricing Page' web display from KDP. It shows a list of 16 'territories' - and it says that even when you choose the 70% royalty rate - any sales outside these 16 territories will be calculated at 35%, regardless of your 70% selection.

What's worse - I'm pretty sure they pay you separately from each 'territory,' and they'll only pay you when your royalties from a given 'territory' exceed US $10.

It's an open question for me, what happens if you sell only a few books in a territory, and that territory's royalties don't get up to $10 - do you EVER get paid those royalties?

Good luck -
clemlaw

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Re: 35% and 70% on the same book?
Posted: Jul 5, 2012 6:01 PM   in response to: killerjer in response to: killerjer
 
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Yes, you get paid for them.

For example, if you had $99 in U.S. sales on amazon.com, and $2 in Australian sales on amazon.com, then you would receive a check for $101 about two months after the end of that month.
scribe30

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Re: 35% and 70% on the same book?
Posted: Jul 19, 2012 3:48 PM   in response to: clemlaw in response to: clemlaw
 
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I am in Australia, and so a lot of my books are sold here, so I only receive 35%. As my books are priced way down, as a new author, i make only a few cents per book. How and why is this treaty, or arrangement,watever, and is it likely to conttinue forever? Does anyone kow?
fridaybaldwin

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Re: 35% and 70% on the same book?
Posted: Jul 20, 2012 3:05 AM   in response to: scribe30 in response to: scribe30
 
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To the Original Poster: It truly sucks and is hard to find in the "fine print" but it happens to all of us. I had to have a Canadian author I know on Facebook explain it to me when I posted on my FB Page complaining about this. We have NO recourse and it's NOT just you. If that helps you feel better. Doesn't help me much either ;-)

@Scribe - you can control your pricing and if you're selling your books "too cheap" then you're never going to be perceived as having anything "of worth" no matter how many you have. If you price your books at a "reasonable" rate, you can actually earn enough money to get paid.

Dean Wesley Smith had an amazing post on his blog doing the actual calculation with numbers

http://www.deanwesleysmith.com/?p=7207
get more articles on pricing from him here:
http://www.deanwesleysmith.com/?tag=pricing

He charged $50/hr for his time, though and you might feel that's too much for you. Personally, I think that's too low given as I used to charge $85/hr for consulting and my writing/editing skills are far more valuable than my consulting fees were! He calculated a book would cost a little over $6000 just to produce and therefore if priced at $7.99 would take about 3 years to pay off if you sold at a stead but low rate (which is what I've been doing since I launched and what most authors do unless/until we "break out") Check out his pricing blog and if nothing else, RAISE YOUR PRICES just to see what happens, just one dollar as a test. I think you'll be surprised - be sure to give it at least 30 days before you start measuring results though as it's gotta propagate outside through the search engines and the public has to "get used to" your new price.

-Friday
@phoenicianbooks

p.s. Monkey2000 DID in fact correctly answer this question, btw. I notice it remains marked NOT answered but sadly, the answer is as stated, depends on the territory in which the customer resides when purchasing via the dot com store.
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