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ooby-dooby

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Table of Contents
Posted: Jul 12, 2012 6:06 AM
 
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I'm really struggling to work out how to add a TOC to my Kindle book. Have gone to the MSNhelp page but although I've tried to follow the method I don't seem to be getting the same menus as I should be. I'm using Word 2007. Also I have no idea what should be appearing on screen. I seem to be getting a lot of stuff appearing with my text. Is this how it should be? No idea as there are no visuals on the MSN link. Thanks for any help.
notjohn

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Re: Table of Contents
Posted: Jul 12, 2012 8:45 AM   in response to: ooby-dooby in response to: ooby-dooby
 
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Are you clicking on the Help link in the Word menu? (I don't use 2007, so I can't be more specific than that.)
divorcedoctor

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Posted: Jul 14, 2012 12:46 AM   in response to: ooby-dooby in response to: ooby-dooby
 
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I'm really struggling to work out how to add a TOC to
my Kindle book.

I think Amazon has included this advice in their latest Guide

if not it is explained in KISS manner in my book below

it is DEAD simple and fully AUTOMATIC ie Word has a macro to compile your TOC

Bible on wordtokindle [1] US - Bible on wordtokindle [2] US -
Bible on wordtokindle [1] UK - Bible on wordtokindle [2] UK

PS here it in guide

Insert your table of contents near the beginning of the Word document o     Left click once where you want your table of contents to appear. This should come just after your front matter (title page, dedication, etc.) o     Type "Table of Contents" and press Enter o     In Microsoft Word, locate the "References" tab at the top

Kindle Direct Publishing (2012-04-15). Building Your Book for Kindle (Kindle Locations 154-159). . Kindle Edition.

mixus

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Re: Table of Contents
Posted: Jul 14, 2012 1:20 AM   in response to: ooby-dooby in response to: ooby-dooby
 
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I always find, whenever I am faced with a problem with formatting and even facing problems with the ToC or Table Of Contents. I always refer to what I call 'the Bible for e-book formatting". I always refer to the "Smashwords Styling Guide". This guide is free from the smashwords website.

By far the easiest explained, easiest to follow and easiest to implement.
76year2

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Posted: Jul 14, 2012 2:05 AM   in response to: mixus in response to: mixus
 
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Right you are mixus! And its easy if you use the bookmark way. I start the TOC after the frist chapter and do it all the way. And the guide tells you how to make word behave.
divorcedoctor

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Posted: Jul 15, 2012 3:22 AM   in response to: 76year2 in response to: 76year2
 
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Right you are mixus! And its easy if you use the
bookmark way. I start the TOC after the frist

OK I was a bit slow on 76year2 being a notjohn glove but "frist" - come on notjohn, very clever to try to simulate an old man but you are now busted

the give away is he simply sings to Smashwords songbook as do ALL your gloves but NONE ever list a book

you need to DIFFERENTIATE yourself from your gloves mate

you are way too obvious right now

and other thing is as above you get a dialog going between your latest gloves old man and nixus here when you should be bringing back some of your old gloves like tinman

way too obvious mate
jtbigtoad

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Re: Table of Contents
Posted: Jul 15, 2012 5:16 AM   in response to: mixus in response to: mixus
 
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[b] I always find, whenever I am faced with a problem with formatting and even facing problems with the ToC or Table Of Contents. ....... I always refer to the "Smashwords Styling Guide". This guide is free from the smashwords website. [/b]

It has been a while since I read the PDF, but I think they use the Bookmark / Hyperlink method -- My fovorite!

Mac word and Open / Libre Office do not ken to this method AT ALL!

I gave up trying to cope with Mac Word entirely

My Advice for that is if you have MacWord or OO, find a friend with a PC and Word! (it really is Quick and easy!)

I descriube the method in the One - Size - Fits - ALL post:

[b] WORD FILE TO KINDLE READY MOBI BOOK. [/b]

http://forums.kindledirectpublishing.com/kdpforums/thread.jspa?threadID=20267&tstart=0

JT

;)

Hey DD how did you get the Advert on the top of the Drudge report??

http://forums.kindledirectpublishing.com/kdpforums/thread.jspa?threadID=41935


jtbigtoad

mixus

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Posted: Jul 15, 2012 4:03 PM   in response to: jtbigtoad in response to: jtbigtoad
 
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Yes I do tend to "evangelise" the SW style guide. Because I find it so easy to follow as its explained simplistically. You also end up with a good clean master file of your manuscript.

Once you have that crispy clean master file, you can then proceed to format that file to any format you choose. I find formatting to Kindle .Mobi so much easier after you have that clean master file.

divorcedoctors problem is he has a closed mind. I'm a professional, in the Health field. Working in this field you have to keep an open mind, because so many people have methods and practices that are far easier and beneficial to both me and my patients. You have to be able to "take on" good advice and "reject" bad advice and most importantly, you have to know the difference.

although DD's advice is some-what questionable. a little smidgen of his advice is some-what credible. But, not as credible as he will make you believe.
divorcedoctor

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Posted: Jul 15, 2012 5:40 PM   in response to: mixus in response to: mixus
 
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Yes I do tend to "evangelise" the SW style guide.
Because I find it so easy to follow as its explained
simplistically. You also end up with a good clean
master file of your manuscript.

Once you have that crispy clean master file, you can
then proceed to format that file to any format you
choose. I find formatting to Kindle .Mobi so much
easier after you have that clean master file.

divorcedoctors problem is he has a closed mind. I'm a
professional, in the Health field. Working in this
field you have to keep an open mind, because so many
people have methods and practices that are far easier
and beneficial to both me and my patients. You have
to be able to "take on" good advice and "reject" bad
advice and most importantly, you have to know the
difference.

although DD's advice is some-what questionable. a
little smidgen of his advice is some-what credible.
But, not as credible as he will make you believe.


nothing to do with open mind mate - my advice on formatting is 100% as Amazon say, just that I set it out in KISS detail for people who are not Power Users of Word and were not brought up "Working with Styles".

And I would hate to fall ill in your area, sounds like a Heath Ledger scenario all over again ie died from 7 different "experts" prescribing 7 different drugs
mixus

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Posted: Jul 16, 2012 5:19 PM   in response to: divorcedoctor in response to: divorcedoctor
 
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I agree with you. after all, is that not the reason for these forums? a peer to ask any questions they may have that their peers may be able to answer for them? in a constructive way?

As long as the guidelines for the forums are adhered to, everyone benefits in some way or another.

These forums are a great tool for peers to use, of cause these forums do have guidelines that also benefit.

Are you aware of the guideline that states. No adverts for books are to be placed on these forums? and the guideline that states: "• Do not solicit Kindle Direct Publishing members on the discussion boards to be your potential customers".

I'm sure your habit of posting links to your books and hoping others using these forums will buy your books are just an accident (cough cough)
divorcedoctor

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Posted: Jul 16, 2012 6:42 PM   in response to: jtbigtoad in response to: jtbigtoad
 
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Hey DD how did you get the Advert on the top of the
Drudge report??

http://forums.kindledirectpublishing.com/kdpforums/thread.jspa?threadID=41935

gtoad


See my reply in other thread you reference
kristenbancroft

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Re: Table of Contents
Posted: Jul 17, 2012 3:36 PM   in response to: ooby-dooby in response to: ooby-dooby
 
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Not sure this is the most elegant way, but I type a table of contents either at the end of beginning. This is in Word.

Then I go to the page I want the table of contents to take you to. I use insert to put in a bookmark with a brilliant name like "Chapter1." (No spaces allowed). I put in bookmarks for all the chapters or places I want to go to.

Then I go back to the table of contents and select the phrase "Chapter 1" or whatever I want. I insert a hyperlink - I select somewhere in the document. The bookmarks I've made pop up and I select Chapter1 and add a hyperlink. Your text should turn blue and you should be able to test the link in Word.

To have a table of contents on Amazon, you need to make a bookmark in the file at your table of contents and call it "TOC".

Then, there is another big step Amazon isn't completely clear about. After you convert your document to html and import it into MobiPocket creator, you need to create a guide. Select Guide before you build.

In the guide, add a new feature called toc (table of contents) and put that its type is toc.

Now it gets tricky again - browse for your document - but not the one you've been using. Find the html file that is in the Your Publications file on your computer. Select it.

Then move your cursor to the end of the name of your html file and type #toc.

You can add other features to your guide (like start), but if you aren't going to add anything else, hit update.

Then build your file. It should have a working TOC on Amazon.

Hope this helps.
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