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Richard Clabaugh

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Making a Comic Book 'Kindle Friendly'
Posted: Sep 26, 2012 12:27 PM
 
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Hi, I have a comic book which I would like to sell for the KINDLE. I made my comic book in ADOBE ILLUSRATOR 5. I have created an INDESIGN template the size of my comic and created pngs of the pages and placed them in the document. I export for Kindle and I get a MOBI (with warnings). In previewer it looks 'buzzy', the lines kinda jaggy.

How should I save my comic so it looks sweet on KINDLE?

Thanks,
Rich
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Re: Making a Comic Book 'Kindle Friendly'
Posted: Sep 26, 2012 1:47 PM   in response to: Richard Clabaugh in response to: Richard Clabaugh
 
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You'll probably want to go with a fixed-layout to increase the "sweetness" of your final book. I don't believe that the InDesign plug-in makes any accommodations for this type of formatting, so you'll pretty much have to do it yourself. Not terribly difficult if you're familiar with HTML/CSS, but also not the easiest thing in the world, either.

You can find sample files under "KindleGen Examples" on the Kindle Publishing page at Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/kindlepublishing.

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Richard Clabaugh

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Re: Making a Comic Book 'Kindle Friendly'
Posted: Sep 26, 2012 1:52 PM   in response to: mrlasers in response to: mrlasers
 
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Thanks for the reply! Unfortunately I DO NOT know much about coding. Does KINDLE FORMAT 8 have any templates I could adapt?
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Re: Making a Comic Book 'Kindle Friendly'
Posted: Sep 26, 2012 6:21 PM   in response to: Richard Clabaugh in response to: Richard Clabaugh
 
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Posted: Sep 26, 2012 6:35 PM   in response to: Richard Clabaugh in response to: Richard Clabaugh
 
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Richard:

Despite "advertisement spam" posts, there really isn't a "template" for making fixed-format books. The Amazon samples are as good a way as any to learn. You will have to learn how to code a bit, to make the region magnification (a must for comic books) function. It's not impossible--it just takes a little time and effort. ;-)

Go here: http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html?docId=1000729511 and download the samples and the Graphic Novel example. That will get you started.

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Posted: Sep 27, 2012 12:14 AM   in response to: Richard Clabaugh in response to: Richard Clabaugh
 
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You can learn some basics of coding presented in a digestible format on this website: http://www.w3schools.com/html/default.asp
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Posted: Sep 27, 2012 11:04 PM   in response to: Richard Clabaugh in response to: Richard Clabaugh
 
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I publish instructional books with a lot of images, and I just make jpgs of images and drop them into MS Word. No problems so far.

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John Kearney

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Re: Making a Comic Book 'Kindle Friendly'
Posted: Sep 28, 2012 10:24 AM   in response to: Richard Clabaugh in response to: Richard Clabaugh
 
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Richard, I am in the same boat, trying to get a graphic novel to look great on Kindle.

The "examples" page is of no help. It just shows a single example of a comic but does not explain how its done.

I know html/css but the process I use does not involve any html/css. I convert to Kindle directly from an epub.

I've searched the web and forums for an answer and can find anything yet.

If there is anyone out there that can point us to specific instructions on how to best format and display comics/graphic novels for Kindle please let us know.

In the previewer, right now my graphic novels have a huge amount of white border on all 4 sides.

Thank you.

UPDATE: I guess I'm missing something someplace...I finally found the "graphic novel sample" and downloaded it. But their sample does the same thing that mine does...when plugged into KindleGen, it generates a Kindle format that is displayed in the previewer with a huge amount of white space around the image. So no help. I sent a note to Kindle support.

Edited by: John Kearney on Sep 28, 2012 3:09 PM

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Posted: Sep 28, 2012 4:08 PM   in response to: John Kearney in response to: John Kearney
 
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What version of KindleGen are you using? The Amazon comic sample should compile properly as a fixed-layout title, which it certainly does for me using any version of KindleGen that can output fixed-layouts.

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Richard Clabaugh

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Posted: Sep 28, 2012 4:43 PM   in response to: mrlasers in response to: mrlasers
 
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How do you use Kinglegen, is it easy for a novice (I'm a comic book artist with limited coding experience)? are there codes for comics?

I have a basic html file for my comic and it does work but the comic image is small. I am making my jpgs 600px x 800px. Is there a fixed-layout html code? Can I add it to my html?

Thanks so much!
mrlasers

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Posted: Sep 28, 2012 5:24 PM   in response to: Richard Clabaugh in response to: Richard Clabaugh
 
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KindleGen is extremely straight forward, though it is a commandline program, which apparently throws a lot of people off. If you're more comfortable with drag-and-drop I'd probably recommend using Kindle Previewer, which runs the same back end conversion process but allows you to just drop your OPF file onto Kindle Previewer.

If you're making a fixed-layout book for Kindle you'll probably want to make your pages at least 800px wide (portrait) or tall (landscape), since this is the native resolution of the forthcoming Kindle Fire HD. I'd probably recommend a bit higher than that even, to allow for magnification with less noticeable scaling. With a 600x800 image the scaling for magnification regions is typically going to be quite apparent.

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Richard Clabaugh

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Posted: Sep 28, 2012 5:31 PM   in response to: mrlasers in response to: mrlasers
 
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Thanks for the reply. I think the html and size I used was designed for the older b&w Kindle (where it looks the best on the previewer) I still wonder if I could add in some fixed-layout coding to make this work.
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Posted: Sep 28, 2012 5:48 PM   in response to: Richard Clabaugh in response to: Richard Clabaugh
 
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There isn't much that is going to be applicable for a fixed-layout in a reflowable Kindle book. They're structurally [i]quite[/i] different, requiring a separate HTML file for each page in the book and a lot of CSS positioning that isn't going to appear in a reflowable book.

You pretty much need to start from scratch when doing a fixed-layout comic. Without magnification regions this is actually quite easy to do, but then you're going to quickly run into readability issues. Especially on small screens.

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Rick Wetzel

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Re: Making a Comic Book 'Kindle Friendly'
Posted: Feb 8, 2013 9:15 AM   in response to: Richard Clabaugh in response to: Richard Clabaugh
 
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I am working on a kid's book for the Kindle, using a combination of Photoshop, Illustrator and Indesign. Get the InDesign Plugin from Amazon. You don't have to change your illustrator files, just place them in Indesign. So far, the book looks good in the Kindle Previewer. If I can just figure out how to get it to my Kindle so I can check it out there, everything will be perfect.
man2010

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Re: Making a Comic Book 'Kindle Friendly'
Posted: Feb 8, 2013 2:40 PM   in response to: Rick Wetzel in response to: Rick Wetzel
 
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You can transfer the .mobi file to your Kindle device via a USB cable. InDesign Plug-in is not the best way to build comic ebooks for the Kindle. The recommended approach is to build a fixed-layout Kindle book. You can download a detailed tutoruial from this post: http://kdp.amazon.com/community/thread.jspa?messageID=335297#335297
(third file from the top, named "FormattingChildren'sBooksAndComics.zip")
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