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nevertooold

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What is the size for a Kindle cover?
Posted: Nov 10, 2010 11:52 AM
 
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I just found out that someone owes a friend of mine a favor and so that person is willing to do my cover for me. I sent what I photos I want to use and the font.

But she wants to know what size is correct, and I suppose without asking ya'll that 300dpi is right for resolution or whatever dpi is called. ;) And it seems I read on here that 800 X 600? for size or is that right?

I told you I am a klutz at computers.

Thanks.
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Re: What is the size for a Kindle cover?
Posted: Nov 10, 2010 1:33 PM   in response to: nevertooold in response to: nevertooold
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Hi Renee

You're going to need two different versions of your cover image. One to go [i]in[/i] the ebook, and another for the book's product listing on Amazon.

The one to go in the book should be a JPG image, 600x800 pixels.

For the product image, see the guidelines page at http://forums.digitaltextplatform.com/dtpforums/entry.jspa?categoryID=10&externalID=50 (might be a good idea to send a copy of that page to your graphic designer). I'd suggest a TIFF image file, 960x1280 pixels.

As a side note, you need to consider the possibility of publishing a print version of the book, so get the designer to also create a version of the image which, at 300dpi, will print accurately to the dimensions of the print version of the book (so, for example, if you decided to do the print book at 6x9 inches, you'd need an image with pixel dimensions 1800x2700).

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Re: What is the size for a Kindle cover?
Posted: Nov 10, 2010 2:41 PM   in response to: dmsmillie in response to: dmsmillie
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[i]The one to go in the book should be a JPG image, 600x800 pixels.[/i]

And under 127KB in size. This may require a bit of compression.

You probably will have a color cover. By all means use color when you upload it to the DTP for inclusion in your book. Though the Kindle shows only black/white, other apps will show color, and perhaps there will be a color Kindle in the future.
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Posted: Nov 10, 2010 6:13 PM   in response to: notjohn in response to: notjohn
 
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Also be sure to check your pictures in grey scale (That's B&W, for you folks in Loma Linda) and be sure that there is adequite contrast for the cover to look good for now.

John

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Re: What is the size for a Kindle cover?
Posted: Nov 12, 2010 12:01 AM   in response to: nevertooold in response to: nevertooold
 
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Although official guidelines are saying that your cover should be 600x800 pixels, my testing shows that images within a Kindle book can be 750x1000 pixels (width:height) and possibly even bigger if you use KindleGen to build your book. These should be JPEG files not bigger than 127KB in size. Based on my experimentation, the best compression options for JPEG images within a Kindle book are as follows: "progressive" with color resampling YUV411 or 2:1 horizontal and vertical resampling.

Regarding image resolution, my experimentation suggests that it doesn't matter. Your image within a Kindle book will look the same whether it is 72 dpi or 300 dpi as long as pixel dimensions are the same. In other words, an image with a bigger size in pixels will look bigger in a Kindle book, regardless of its resolution in dots per inch.
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Posted: Nov 12, 2010 3:03 AM   in response to: man2010 in response to: man2010
 
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[i]the best compression options for JPEG images within a Kindle book are as follows: "progressive" with color resampling YUV411 or 2:1 horizontal and vertical resampling.[/i]

I use Paint Shop Pro, and the terms aren't familiar to me. Can you translate a bit?

Good stuff, thanks.
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Posted: Nov 12, 2010 7:28 AM   in response to: notjohn in response to: notjohn
 
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Sorry, I am not familiar with Paint Shop Pro. I use Ulead PhotoImpact and ACDSee PhotoManager. When you save a file as JPEG and click options, you see the compression options. Most graphics editors will show you percentage quality option and some will also let you choose the compression mode: Progressive (the best quality to size ratio), Standard, and Standard Optimized. There may also be an option of color resampling: 2:1 vertical and/or 2:1 horizontal, YUV411 subsampling (the best quality to size ratio), YUV422, and no subsampling.

I tried various JPEGs with KindleGen and it appears that Progressive mode plus YUV411 color subsampling produce the biggest book size, meaning that you have better quality of images in your book, all else being equal. For example if I try to build a book with two identical JPEG images (including identical size, say 126KB), but one of them uses no subsampling while the other was saved with YUV411 subsampling, then the book file with the latter image will be about 10KB bigger, suggesting that KindleGen did not try to recompress this image and you have better quality of your image.
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Posted: Nov 12, 2010 11:21 AM   in response to: notjohn in response to: notjohn
 
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I don't exactly understand it all myself, but "YUV" is the notation for analog colour subsampling, whereas "YCrCb" (as used in Paint Shop Pro) is the notation for digital colour subsampling. I [i]think[/i] "YUV411" corresponds to the setting "YCrCb 4x1 1x1 1x1" in PSP (though it's possible it actually corresponds to "YCrCb 1x4 1x1 1x1" - I can't find anything right now that would give a definitive answer to that one!).

When you use "File > Save As" in PSP, and select JPG format, then click on "Options" (bottom right of the "Save As" dialog"), you get options for:

[b]Encoding: Type:[/b] Standard/Progressive/Lossless

[b]Compression factor:[/b] 0 (no compression) to 99 (maximum compression)

[b]Chroma subsampling:[/b] Various settings using YCrCb notation (I generally have it set to YCrCb 1x1 1x1 1x1 (no colour subsampling)).

[i][b]Edited to add:[/b] Above is based on PSP Photo XI.[/i]

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