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notjohn

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Re: Does anyone make real money selling books on kindle?
Posted: Mar 28, 2011 3:39 AM   in response to: charlielange in response to: charlielange
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You must first sell the book (or magazine article, which is what many of my briskly selling ebooks really are). How do you do that? Well, you need a ready-made audience, and for me that's easier to find with non-fiction subjects. Say I groove on battle tanks. So do a lot of other guys! It is just incredible what people will buy on specialized military subjects. The Schiffer book line include gems like "Fire Engines of the Third Reich"! People pay $50 for these books!

The equivalent of this in fiction is to be in a hot genre. These seem to be science fiction, erotica, vampires, and teenage chick lit generally. Evidently here again the appetite is limitless, even though you're appealing only to a very limited audience. Me: militaria buffs. Scribblr: sci-fi (evidently). Amanda Hocking: pubescent chick lit. Etc.

My novels by contrast are "serious"--what used to be called literature. The audience for that tends to be small, and their chances of finding you on the Amazon page (five million books! nearly a million ebooks!) are even smaller.
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Re: Does anyone make real money selling books on kindle?
Posted: Mar 28, 2011 8:28 AM   in response to: notjohn in response to: notjohn
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$500 a month is great NotJohn, and I'm certainly not trying to put that down (I have no-where near that - I'm just starting out) but you said you have 14 books (so that's not a great amount of come back on 14 titles)

It's not enough to quit work? If it was a $1000 dollars a month then maybe. I'd like to know how many people are making their entire living from Kindle, if anyone?

http://scleeonline.com/

One of the problems I have is it takes me ages to write a book. I'm curently writing a diary for teenage girls and it won't be finished until January (for realism) It's set in 2011. Even then I'll only have two novels and a short story out there. Although I'm thinking of writing a short story for Christmas. Providing I can think of one.
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Posted: Mar 28, 2011 10:17 AM   in response to: scleeposts in response to: scleeposts
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I think there is one large drawback for me publishing on kindle and that is who owns a kindle and who reads books on their phones- young people.

Personally I don't know anyone who owns a kindle and I have spent my life cultivating friendships with persons who prefer to write snail mail letters and sit down with the actual book. These and serious writers and readers. And my own readers who probably average 45 in age and do not have the latest and greatest technology.

It looks like the Harry Potter generation owns all the kindles and high tech phones and I am the opposite of Harry Potter. Nevertheless, I'll give it a try and hopefully I will be pleasantly surprised. But I am pretty sure that my real audience needs a real book. At any rate, I doubt genre matters that much, the average age of a kindle downloader is far more important.

I hope someone disagrees with me.
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Posted: Mar 28, 2011 12:00 PM   in response to: kirsten605 in response to: kirsten605
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Hi kirsten605,
I'm new to writing for kindle, but I can tell you it's been my experience that kindle owners are in the 40's, 50's and even 60's range, plus at least one 70 year old woman that I know. These are women, and most of them are in the education field such as teachers, teacher aides or assistants. They read everything from romance to paranormal, newspapers etc. you name it.
So yes you've found one person that disagrees with you.
Hope that helps. It's the reason I've decided to publish with kindle myself, because I know my peers are reading!
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Posted: Mar 28, 2011 12:43 PM   in response to: kirsten605 in response to: kirsten605
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I have to disagree also. I received a fan letter from a man in his 80's, and I have numerous fans who are retirees in their 60's and 70's. But I also have teens and young adults writing to me. There's no way for me to get an accurate demographic picture, but there's no doubt that the Kindle stretches across all age groups.Ten years ago most people didn't have an email account. Try to find someone under 80 that doesn't have an account now. And you don't need a kindle to read Kindle books. You can do it on your home computer, iPad, or even your cell phone.

What will make the difference is how you target your audience. If you write for a 40 - 50 age group, that's what you'll get. Try to appeal to as wide an age group as possible.

Best of luck with your endeavor.
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Posted: Mar 28, 2011 1:51 PM   in response to: scribblr in response to: scribblr
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To judge by the people I know who own Kindles, the demographic is definitely senior citizen. As Scribblr points out, however, it's likely that younger people read on their iPads or smartphones.

Like most dedicated devices (remember the email "computers" of ten or fifteen years ago?) a Kindle is easily mastered. You don't have to download any apps or move things around. It just does the one thing. Oldsters like that. I recently tried to persuade a woman that she'd do better with her iPhone, but she's gone ahead and purchased a Kindle.
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Posted: Mar 28, 2011 4:51 PM   in response to: scribblr in response to: scribblr
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i like your final response about one of your critics of you sci-fi books.
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Posted: Mar 28, 2011 7:08 PM   in response to: scribblr in response to: scribblr
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On the internet, search for -- pounds to dollars -- converter. Should be easy to find a site that offers it and easy to use.

Marti
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Need an inexpensive editor? Try Frankie at fjsutton@yahoo.com

How did this get in the wrong thread? Sheesh, I've finally gone mad.

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Posted: Mar 28, 2011 7:37 PM   in response to: grantpayne06 in response to: grantpayne06
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Thanks. I did try to research the issue. I searched the internet and all the local libraries, but no one had any history books that detailed what life will be like in 2270. I even took the problem down to Madame Rue; you know the gypsy with the gold-capped tooth? Her crystal ball was on the fritz, and all she wanted to do was sell me a love potion. So in the end I was forced to make everything up. C'est la vie.

;-)
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Posted: Mar 28, 2011 7:49 PM   in response to: scribblr in response to: scribblr
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Scribblr: LOL...I'm very familiar with Madame Rue. I think she's got a pad down on 34th and Vine. :)
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Posted: Mar 28, 2011 8:56 PM   in response to: jeannemiller2 in response to: jeannemiller2
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Yeah, yeah, that's the one. Watch out for her potions. They smell like turpentine and look like India Ink. Worse, she mixes them up in her sink.

:-)
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Re: Does anyone make real money selling books on kindle?
Posted: Mar 28, 2011 9:27 PM   in response to: notjohn in response to: notjohn
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My teen days were spent playing D&D, Vampire Masquerade, and IRC adventures. None of us ever wanted to be the GM because they were the ones that had to have all the books. At 20, 30, and 40 bucks a pop, we could only afford a new manual every month or so at best. Needless to say there was rarely a game that was played correctly per the game rules.

/Now it makes me curious if any manuals have been ported to the Kindle.
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Posted: Mar 28, 2011 10:15 PM   in response to: scribblr in response to: scribblr
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Yeah, yeah, that's the one. Watch out for her
potions. They smell like turpentine and look like
India Ink. Worse, she mixes them up in her sink.

:-)


Love Potion #9
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Re: Does anyone make real money selling books on kindle?
Posted: Mar 29, 2011 12:02 AM   in response to: kirsten605 in response to: kirsten605
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It's curious. Nobody has mentioned Joe Konrath in this thread. If you want to see how a person can make a handsome living selling e-books, check out his blog:
http://jakonrath.blogspot.com/. It's called "A NEWBIES' GUIDE TO PUBLISHING"

Joe is is the original e-book guru. His articles and guest posts show the reader/writer how to format, prepare, market and watch the pennies turn to hundred, then thousands and even hundred of thousands of dollars. The man is a rebel... and a marketing genius.

If you want to make money with e-books, consult Joe Konrath's online brain. He's funny, knowledgable and canny as a rat in a flour mill.

Sorry... the Kindle system posted my message twice.
Sent me an error message and then double posted it. Please forgive the repetition.

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Posted: Mar 29, 2011 12:03 AM   in response to: kirsten605 in response to: kirsten605
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It's curious. Nobody has mentioned Joe Konrath in this thread. If you want to see how a person can make a handsome living selling e-books, check out his blog:
http://jakonrath.blogspot.com/. It's called "A NEWBIES' GUIDE TO PUBLISHING"

Joe is is the original e-book guru. His articles and guest posts show the reader/writer how to format, prepare, market and watch the pennies turn to hundred, then thousands and even hundred of thousands of dollars. The man is a rebel... and a marketing genius.

If you want to make money with e-books, consult Joe Konrath's online brain. He's funny, knowledgable and canny as a rat in a flour mill.
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