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Tammy Adams

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Re: "Go To" clickable TOC
Posted: Jun 7, 2013 9:38 AM   in response to: Tammy Adams in response to: Tammy Adams
 
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And one more quick question.

I use the Heading 1 option for the title chapters and they look like this

1

Chapter Title

I want them to center in the book. They center fine in the Word. doc, but when transferred to .mobi file all the chapters are left justified. Again, will this be centered if I just download the word file to Amazon Publishing?
Notjohn

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Re: "Go To" clickable TOC
Posted: Jun 7, 2013 12:36 PM   in response to: Tammy Adams in response to: Tammy Adams
 
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Given the variable size of the e-reader screen (think iPhone!), I really don't think you should devote that much space to the heading.

Mine look like this:

<h2 id=chap01">1 - Boy Meets Amish Girl</h2>

The style sheet controls how an H2 head looks: centered on the page, a bit of space above and below, and twice the size of normal text. The chap01 is the link for the table of contents.

I know people fight it, but really, html is the easiest way to build an e-book.

(Evidently Amish romance is the hottest new e-book category.)

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cjeasyaspie

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A Bird Came Down the Walk MS Word Uploaded Directly to Amazon KDP
Posted: Jun 7, 2013 3:43 PM   in response to: Notjohn in response to: Notjohn
 
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@notjohn says:
Mine look like this:

1 - Boy Meets Amish Girl


The style sheet controls how an H2 head looks: centered on the page, a bit of space above and below, and twice the size of normal text. The chap01 is the link for the table of contents. I know people fight it, but really, html is the easiest way to build an e-book.


But your heading is not centered.

What does your page look like?

Here is what mine -- MS Word uploaded directly to Amazon KDP -- looks like:



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divorcedoctor

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Re: "Go To" clickable TOC
Posted: Jun 7, 2013 4:04 PM   in response to: Tammy Adams in response to: Tammy Adams
 
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I can only REPEAT that you MUST use STYLES and not idiot buttons in Word

here is a chapter from my book - it is about Normal style but Heading 1 is exactly the same deal, and you can see I have already "modified" it at top pf list as centered

http://kindleforindies.blogspot.com.au/2012/12/chapter-3-formatting-normal-style.html

as long as you work with styles no need to even convert to html, ie just upload Word

and on toc issue the a name=toc code puts the entry into the pulldown menu on Kindle for PC and similar on Kindle ink, but you may be talking of the NCX or whatever toc which IMHO is for the birds
Tammy Adams

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Re: A Bird Came Down the Walk MS Word Uploaded Directly to Amazon KDP
Posted: Jun 8, 2013 5:59 AM   in response to: cjeasyaspie in response to: cjeasyaspie
 
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I haven't published the book yet but when I convert to .mobi and use the Kindle previewer, all my chapter headings are to the left. But when you look at in Word, its centered

Here is what the code is for one of the chapter titles

(h1 align="left" style="text-align:center" height="5%">(a name="_Toc358293060">(span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">INTRODUCTION(span style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">(/span>(/h1>

I'm seeing align=left and then text align center?????

cjeasyaspie

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Re: A Bird Came Down the Walk MS Word Uploaded Directly to Amazon KDP
Posted: Jun 8, 2013 7:33 AM   in response to: Tammy Adams in response to: Tammy Adams
 
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Tammy,

Here is a chapter header for A Bird Came Down the Walk, created with MS Word 2010, saved as HTML filtered and viewed with Notepad.

h1 a name="_Toc358386967" Chapter 1 /a /h1

(I've deleted the marks "<">" so that line of code won't get converted.)

Kinda disproves those claims that MS Word creates terrible code, doesn't it?

Of course, that is an absolutely clean file, with none of the clutter a file can pick up when it's been edited a lot.

You may have to do some drastic cleanup on your manuscript, as it clearly shows some clutter.

(Click the photo of birds on a tightrope on the main page of CJ's Easy as Pie Kindle Tutorials, and just follow the steps.)

You MAY be able to clean a paragraph at a time, by selecting a paragraph, then click Clear All in the Styles Pane, but piecemeal cleanup is, too often, more trouble than it's worth.

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Lydia Wayland

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Re: "Go To" clickable TOC
Posted: Jun 9, 2013 3:22 PM   in response to: cjeasyaspie in response to: cjeasyaspie
 
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I have a different problem with a Table of Contents, as I use WordPerfect not MS Word. In the wp file I've created hyperlinks between the Table of Contents and chapter headings which work fine in the base document. When it's "published to html" the links work fine in the browser. But once it gets through the Calibre conversion,it runs amok! Any advice?
cjeasyaspie

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Re: "Go To" clickable TOC
Posted: Jun 9, 2013 6:03 PM   in response to: Lydia Wayland in response to: Lydia Wayland
 
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I have a different problem with a Table of Contents, as I use WordPerfect not MS Word. In the wp file I've created hyperlinks between the Table of Contents and chapter headings which work fine in the base document. When it's "published to html" the links work fine in the browser. But once it gets through the Calibre conversion,it runs amok! Any advice?

I don't use Calibre, although I have investigated it in the past.

I don't remember too much about it, but I do remember a step where you have to tell Calibre the Heading tags that you want to use in your Table of Contents.

Did you do that step?

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Lydia Wayland

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Re: "Go To" clickable TOC
Posted: Jun 10, 2013 2:32 AM   in response to: cjeasyaspie in response to: cjeasyaspie
 
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Thanks for yr answer. No such question posed. There's never any interaction of that kind with Calibre. It just crunches the pages for you. That allows a halfway look at progress. Oh well. Lydia
cjeasyaspie

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Re: "Go To" clickable TOC
Posted: Jun 10, 2013 7:57 AM   in response to: Lydia Wayland in response to: Lydia Wayland
 
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Oh, no no no... there's ALL KINDS of interaction with Calibre!

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CJ, at CJ's Easy as Pie Kindle Tutorials
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Tammy Adams

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Re: "Go To" clickable TOC
Posted: Jun 26, 2013 6:56 AM   in response to: Tammy Adams in response to: Tammy Adams
 
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Just to let everyone know that after publishing just using the Word file, the chapter titles are centered and a clickable TOC is working great!!!!! YEA!

Thanks everyone for all your help
divorcedoctor

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Re: "Go To" clickable TOC
Posted: Jun 26, 2013 7:31 PM   in response to: Tammy Adams in response to: Tammy Adams
 
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chapter titles centered is purely a matter of how YOU defined the Heading 1 STYLE

tocs - BOTH of them as Pie Lady says - are auto if you simply INSERT a toc in Word

easy peasy, no more NCX blues
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Re: "Go To" clickable TOC
Posted: Jun 26, 2013 11:54 PM   in response to: Tammy Adams in response to: Tammy Adams
 
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Tammy, I had the same problem in a preview file generated by the Kindle Previewer. But I found the TOC worked properly when I uploaded my file to KDP and then downloaded the preview file from there. So, the Previewer was omitting that, intentionally or unintentionally. It also didn't process the start bookmark, but that too was fine when I uploaded to KDP.
Notjohn

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Re: "Go To" clickable TOC
Posted: Jun 27, 2013 2:27 AM   in response to: Shepard Publica... in response to: Shepard Publica...
 
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the TOC worked properly when I uploaded my file to KDP and then downloaded the preview file from there.

That's exactly the workflow I use, though professional formatters claim it is extra work. (In fact, it's less. It's easier to upload, download *.mobi, and preview, than it is to create *.mobi, preview, then upload -- plus you always have the nagging worry that an error may have crept into the file unless you preview it again.)

So, the Previewer was omitting that, intentionally or unintentionally. It also didn't process the start bookmark, but that too was fine when I uploaded to KDP.

Are you saying that Kindle Previewer (the software downloaded to your computer) gave you a different result before the book went through the KDP mill than it did afterward? That would be a scary thought.

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Harold Flatz

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Re: "Go To" clickable TOC
Posted: Aug 29, 2013 3:37 AM   in response to: Notjohn in response to: Notjohn
 
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Yes that is the case: TOC Not Working when HTML file is converted to mobi file using Kindle Previewer
I created a simple ebook that had one TOC entry. Using Kindle Previewer to convert the HTML file to mobi file resulted in the TOC not included in the goto menu. Upload the same file and download the converted mobi file and the TOC menu item and button works

The eBook (HTML code):

<html>

&tl;head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Language" content="en-us">
<meta name="GENERATOR" content="Microsoft FrontPage 5.0">
<meta name="ProgId" content="FrontPage.Editor.Document">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1252">
<title>TOC Test</title>
</head>

<body>

<p dir="ltr" align="center"><b><font size="5">Simple Test eBook</font></b></p>
<p dir="ltr" align="left"><a name="toc"></a>TOC</p>
<p dir="ltr" align="left"><a href="#Ch_SimplestTOC">The only TOC Entry</a></p>
<h1 dir="ltr" align="left"><a name="Ch_SimplestTOC"><font size="4">This is the only Link from the TOC</font></a></h1>
<p dir="ltr" align="left">This HTML code was created using MS Frontpage.</p>
<p dir="ltr" align="left">All it has is one linked bookmark in the TOC.</p>
<p dir="ltr" align="left">Kindle Previewer ignores the <a name="toc"> tag when it converts the html file to a mobi file.</p>
<p dir="ltr" align="left">It also ignores the <a name="start"> tag, but that is another story.</p>
<p dir="ltr" align="left">&nbsp;</p>

</body>

</html>
 
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