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Dee Tezelli

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Has anyone marked 'Parts' in addition to Chapters?
Posted: Oct 21, 2017 1:06 PM
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I'm deep into reading a James Patterson / Alex Cross book of some 300 pages. He has separated the plot into -4- parts and -131- chapters. This is of course the print version of the book. I'm not certain if his e-book also does the same. Has any of you tried splitting Parts with numbers? And if so, is it perhaps to accentuate the drama? Thanks. Dee Tezelli, Seattle
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Re: Has anyone marked 'Parts' in addition to Chapters?
Posted: Oct 21, 2017 1:53 PM   in response to: Dee Tezelli in response to: Dee Tezelli
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Hey Dee,

I haven't tried it myself, but I've seen it done quite successfully a few times, on at least one occasion to change the POV. It made me sit up and concentrate harder for a little while afterwards, while I got used to the change, but I didn't mind at all as I was enjoying the book.

Hope that helps. J
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Re: Has anyone marked 'Parts' in addition to Chapters?
Posted: Oct 21, 2017 5:59 PM   in response to: Dee Tezelli in response to: Dee Tezelli
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Hi Dee.

I've sort of done this. The action in my latest book takes part in several different locations. Instead of saying something like... "meanwhile, back at the ranch", I put a main heading for each of the places & then listed the chapters relevant to that place after that & wrote quite a bit about what was going in in that particular location before returning to another.

I made the place headings "Heading 1" and all the chapter headings "Heading 2", then when I came to making the TOC, simply adjusted the bit where it says "show levels" to 2. Worked like a charm. I've also done the same thing in another book & it was fine as well.

No complaints from readers as yet. One book has only been out a couple of weeks, but the other one has been available for over a year & has sold some. I'm sure if any reader had been upset/offended/generally narked or in a bad mood about it, they'd have let me know by now.

I hope that all makes sense to you.

Good luck with your book & all the best to you... Helen G
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Re: Has anyone marked 'Parts' in addition to Chapters?
Posted: Oct 21, 2017 11:17 PM   in response to: Dee Tezelli in response to: Dee Tezelli
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Brandon Sanderson's The Way of Kings (The Stormlight Archive) does this if you want to check out an actual example (assuming you are asking what I think you are).

The TOC looks like:
...
Part One: Above Silence
1: STORMBLESSED
2: HONOR IS DEAD
...

Part Two: The Illuminating Storms
12: UNITY
13: TEN HEARTBEATS
...

The separator page for Part One appears in between chapters and looks like:

PART
ONE

Above Silence

KALADIN * SHALLAN

All the text is centered on the page and there is a watermark image of a sword on the background. The names at the bottom are the main characters in this part of the story.

The parts are used to separate distinct sections of a book and are very often used in epic fantasy. In this book's case, each part involves different character story arcs as it builds them up to a point where they collide near the end. The ebook should look just the same as the print version. My example is from the ebook version.

Hope that helps.
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Re: Has anyone marked 'Parts' in addition to Chapters?
Posted: Oct 22, 2017 3:15 AM   in response to: Dee Tezelli in response to: Dee Tezelli
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If you have 131 chapters, there's really no point in having chapters at all. I've seen such books -- they're usually thrillers -- and the TOC is just an endless list of numbers. What's the point? Nobody is going to remember that he was on chapter 74 instead of chapter 75. Indeed, I don't see much point in having a TOC at all if there are only chapter numbers (except that Amazon "requires" a TOC). Without memorable titles, a TOC is useless.

If Patterson Incorporated named their PARTS, then I'd figure the book has four chapters.

Grumble, grumble....

(Don't trust KDP to publish a print edition. Don't trust CreateSpace to publish an ebook.)

Good luck! -- NJ

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Helen Gosney

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Re: Has anyone marked 'Parts' in addition to Chapters?
Posted: Oct 22, 2017 3:32 AM   in response to: Notjohn in response to: Notjohn
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Hi.

They'd be damned LONG chapters if he did it that way!

I didn't name my books' parts as Part 1, 2, 3, etc.

Instead I named them for the place the action is happening... eg Woop Woop, Somewhere, Somewhere Else, Woop Woop.

And then the chapters were numbered & had a quote from the chapter in the chapter heading too. This certainly made it easier for me when writing, & I hope makes it easier for readers too.

Like you, I can see absolutely no reason to have a TOC that's only comprised of chapter numbers.

Cheers... Helen G

Edited by: Helen Gosney on Oct 22, 2017 4:26 AM
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Re: Has anyone marked 'Parts' in addition to Chapters?
Posted: Oct 22, 2017 7:26 AM   in response to: Helen Gosney in response to: Helen Gosney
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I don't like TOCs with just chapter numbers either.
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Re: Has anyone marked 'Parts' in addition to Chapters?
Posted: Oct 22, 2017 10:54 AM   in response to: Dee Tezelli in response to: Dee Tezelli
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I've seen it in several Russian novels, most recently in Anna Karenina. I think it works better for longer books as a way of breaking the narrative flow from one location to another and best in third person.
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Re: Has anyone marked 'Parts' in addition to Chapters?
Posted: Oct 23, 2017 8:56 AM   in response to: C. Gold in response to: C. Gold
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Super helpful, All. I'm thinking TOC to show -2- Parts only numbered with Roman numerals with no headings. Underneath listing Chapters with two-word teaser headings. The premise being to deliver a nudge between 'celestial encounter' and (maybe) return to reality. Cheers, Dee Tezelli, Seattle
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