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Ted Steinberg

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Kindle Create is a Painful Experience.
Posted: Oct 25, 2017 4:44 PM
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If you are using MAC OS, latest, and MS Word for Mac, latest, AND if you import a word document, no more than 4 pages, in to Kindle Create, AND if you want to do any (ANY) formatting, with KC's Element or Formatting sectors, you will experience some of the following, mind numbing problems, presented here, not in the order of pain, just as I recall them: 1)hard to select text, 2) scrolling by any means, arrows or mouse, will not only take you pages away from where you want to be, but also into other chapters, some of which are several documents away from where you want to be, 3) back spacing is horrible, 4) returns are chancy, 5) embolding part of a the body copy is also chancy, 6) numbers and bullets from Word are flush left with extra space between the number or bullet and the text. 6) no visible page numbering, although apparently it works for PDFs.

This product is less than a Beta, it's between and Alpha release and perhaps a Beta. Perhaps as a PDF file paste in, it's AOK, but at this point, it is not anything I can use, and I have almost a 1000 pages in 250 short humorous essays, in Word, on The Business World, I dedicated three days to getting 20 of them ready, and put 8 of them into KC, and although they looked AOK in Word, they look ridiculous in KC. I am never going to put my work in to a template system, which is all KC is, at best, and not be able to adjust it, without having to use up my vast lexicon of vulgar expressions, or to then cut it and paste it back into Word to see if i can do KC's so called creator's work for them.

The product and the announcement and the video is a sanctimonious example of how successful companies like Amazon create bad will.

I will not be using KC in any way. It is a sophomoric tool at best.

If Amazon does not want to support Mac users. Just say so! Microsoft pretends that Office for Mac is useful. It is not. Before Adobe Frame was no longer being offered for Macs, I used it and avoided Word.
Salamander Mall...

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Re: Kindle Create is a Painful Experience.
Posted: Oct 25, 2017 5:20 PM   in response to: Ted Steinberg in response to: Ted Steinberg
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KC was intended as a "magic wand" for those poor souls who couldn't get the hang of formatting with Word (for example), but who could type and more or less manage Styles. Obviously, magic wands don't always work. Many writers on this forum use Macs and are very successful using their word processor of choice as a formatting tool. Others do quite well with HTML. Learning to format is not that difficult, but an effort must be made. Visit the Formatting Forum. You'll find many helpful threads, some specifically for Mac users.
Notjohn

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Re: Kindle Create is a Painful Experience.
Posted: Oct 26, 2017 3:21 AM   in response to: Salamander Mall... in response to: Salamander Mall...
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Others do quite well with HTML.

I think it would be more accurate to say that those who use html are the ones who can actually format their books. Ebooks are, after all, nothing but a simple web page (or many of them), and an e-reader is nothing but a simple web browser.

Learning to format is not that difficult, but an effort must be made.

Very true! (It's also necessary to know what a well-formatted ebook looks like.)

Oh, and I forgot to say! @Ted, I'm sorry for your troubles, especially because I recently read a post here by someone who was marveling about the ease of workiing with Kindle Create. Until then, I've always had a low opinion of it. Now I'm skeptical again. (I know, I know -- I've never used it beyond playing about for an hour or two, so what do I know?)

It does indeed seem true that Mac users have their work cut out for them on the KDP generally, and not with Kindle Create alone. So that may be part of your problem.

And in the end, be aware that like all proprietary formats, KC books cannot be sold on Apple, B&N, Kobo, Google, and lesser online stores. I think that's a mistake on the author's part, though not of course on Amazon's.

(Don't trust KDP to publish a print edition. Don't trust CreateSpace to publish an ebook.)

Good luck! -- NJ

Notjohn's Guide to E-Book & Print Formatting

The blog:
http://notjohnkdp.blogspot.com

Edited by: Notjohn on Oct 26, 2017 3:22 AM
writerbn

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Re: Kindle Create is a Painful Experience.
Posted: Oct 26, 2017 5:08 AM   in response to: Ted Steinberg in response to: Ted Steinberg
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Ted Steinberg wrote:
If Amazon does not want to support Mac users. Just say so! Microsoft pretends that Office for Mac is useful. It is not. Before Adobe Frame was no longer being offered for Macs, I used it and avoided Word.
I've been using KDP for 4 years now, on a Mac, and never had issues, barring the unfortunate, poorly developed older version of Kindle Previewer that was built in Java.

However, any time you rely on push-button (or "magic wand", as the amphibian said) tools that promise to do everything for you and make a cup of coffee too, you're bound to face issues. I format my books as ePub files using Sigil (free; works great on Mac OS) and upload them directly to KDP after validating them.

BTW, Word for Mac works reasonably well, although I'm still hanging on to the older (2011) version. It's bloated and has an ugly interface that breaks many UI conventions, but so does the Windows version. I don't bother with Word for e-books, but I use it for my day job to edit and format extremely complex documents, only because that's what the typical client uses. The more enlightened ones send me InDesign files.
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