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Jacqueline Wash...

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Re: I cannot understand how this works!!
Posted: Oct 31, 2017 9:08 AM   in response to: Salamander Mall... in response to: Salamander Mall...
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I can write a story very well indeed. I've made over $300.00 dollars in sales, on both books. I think this is just not the type of reading material you are looking for. I sorry you glance at it. It's does have it moment's that will make you laugh in part two, if you really read it, not glance at it. Even part I have it's moment's. Thanks a lot.
Jacqueline Wash...

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Re: I cannot understand how this works!!
Posted: Oct 31, 2017 9:10 AM   in response to: Salamander Mall... in response to: Salamander Mall...
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I have two other buyers today. You should have order the paperback. I know it's expensive.
Jacqueline Wash...

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Re: I cannot understand how this works!!
Posted: Oct 31, 2017 10:50 AM   in response to: maineauthor in response to: maineauthor
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I know that but it's the place to find out what this all means. If you don't understand what's really going on with this site.
Jacqueline Wash...

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Re: I cannot understand how this works!!
Posted: Oct 31, 2017 11:03 AM   in response to: Salamander Mall... in response to: Salamander Mall...
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I have one more thing to say. Poorly written and formatted you called my books. I just talk to someone who ordered both books on their kindle. This person is a supervisor. They said they didn't have a problem in reading the whole complete book on their kindle and it was a good book. I did do some adjusting. I want to let you know from the being yes it was a mess. But since amazon, let's you edit your book it's much better now. I've put a lot of months in those two books with editing. It did take some time to review over both books. That's' why they are selling. Thanks for the feedback today. Now I know what this site is use for.
Mrs Julia Evans

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Re: I cannot understand how this works!!
Posted: Oct 31, 2017 12:58 PM   in response to: Jacqueline Wash... in response to: Jacqueline Wash...
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Jacqueline,

You seem hell-bent on arguing with people here, and disputing the fact that your books fall short of what is considered by most to be a satisfactory standard. It's worth pointing out that most people here strive to create a book that is way above 'satisfactory', but I think we are all agreed that to meet a minimum 'acceptable' level, a book should be correctly formatted, grammatically correct, and contain no typos.

As to how good the story is, well, for the purpose of explaining myself to you, I would say that it doesn't really matter. It's subjective, and readers will both like and dislike the same book and give similar reasons for their opinion.

I had a look at your book, 'Vengeance of the Afterlife; the floor sounds of creepy noises', and you are quite right, it is somewhat better than when you posted a while back. Is it of a satisfactory standard? No. And I'll explain why, specifically (without going past the first four paragraphs).

Your title: ‘floor sounds of creepy noises’ – this may sound correct in your first language, but in English it makes no sense whatsoever. The closest I could come to what I think you wanted to convey was ‘the creepy sounds of the (creaking) floorboards.’

Gobbledygook - There are other sentences which are nonsense too –

‘I’m sitting here alone, trying to think of words to write for a book.’ You aren’t writing ‘for a book’. You’re either ‘writing a book’ or ‘writing in a book’.

‘Fire and blood shed’. You mean 'bloodshed' (one word). It’s a small difference, but trust me, it’s different. (You could replace those two with ‘blood spilled’ and ‘carnage’.)

‘Dedication on back.’ No, your dedication is 'at the back’.

Your chapters – In the TOC (which doesn't appear hyperlinked) you show page numbers in your Kindle eversion. You shouldn’t show page numbers as kindle pages are reflowable and change with the font size selected by the reader.

Your grammar – you appear to have no idea what to do with a comma. You have plenty where they’re not needed, breaking up sentences in the wrong places, but few where they are needed. You need to learn how to use a comma correctly, to break up a sentence into different parts.

You also use capital letters and apostrophes in the wrong places. For example;

‘I noticed there was Law Enforcement Officer’s everywhere.’ ‘Was’ should be ‘were’ as you have officers - plural/Law Enforcement Officers should all be in lower case/there should be no apostrophe in officers as it’s simply the plural of officer.

Your tenses – you jump from past to present and vice versa within the same sentence. For example;

‘I’m (present) writing a book of old memories as I sat (past) quietly.’

‘It seems (present) as though someone knew (past) I was here'.

Your verbs - you also have a problem conjugating verbs – I am, you are, he/she is, we are… and so on. For example;

‘Whoever touch it is in great danger. This should read ‘Whoever touches it...’

‘Once release there is nowhere to hide. This should read ‘Once released, there is …’

Ok, I think that’s enough of a demonstration, but please believe me, I could have written twice as much, and still not gone past paragraph four (yes, I meant paragraph – not chapter).

You can argue all you like with other people’s opinions. What you can’t argue with are the facts. The errors above are facts, taken straight from your book.

The reason for this post isn’t to embarrass you, or make you feel badly about your book. It’s to point out that you still have a long way to go. If this was what I found so easily in less than one page, can you imagine what it would be like for an English speaker to read a whole book full of these mistakes?

And while you may have had lovely feedback from your family and friends, do you really think they’re capable of giving a professional review of your book? Especially if, as I suspect, your friends’ first language isn’t English either.

The people here have been very honest with you, and even though I know you don’t appreciate their comments, not one of them is wrong. Nor are they jealous or mean-spirited.

If you’re happy with the poor work you’ve published, then I can only suggest that you give up posting ‘New Threads’ on the forum.

People here are fellow authors, and professionals to boot, which means they work damned hard to produce quality work. When you come on here claiming your work is 'beautiful', when to anyone with eyes it’s a carbuncle on the face of Amazon, you have to expect people to shoot you down, as, to them, you’re just another money grabbing scam artist, looking to earn a few dollars by publishing rubbish.

Luckily for you, you have that music career to fall back on.

Just my thoughts. J

Carol Menges

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Re: I cannot understand how this works!!
Posted: Nov 1, 2017 9:01 AM   in response to: Mrs Julia Evans in response to: Mrs Julia Evans
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She probably doesn't realize that, although she can basically be understood in what must be her second language, to produce literature in it requires a great deal of facility that she doesn't possess. The standard is always higher for paid literature. If we wrote a book in her first language that was full of such errors, we'd have to expect to be panned by anyone who knows that language well, even though our English-speaking friends and family might praise us to the skies. The standard for writing is always higher than what one's hearers will accept because the hearers want to be polite and get to the heart of the message being conveyed.
Jacqueline Wash...

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Re: I cannot understand how this works!!
Posted: Nov 1, 2017 12:38 PM   in response to: Mrs Julia Evans in response to: Mrs Julia Evans
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It's very hard to write a book, when you have to work. I'm not retired. I feel like giving up so many times. I reviewed my part I book, and saw other things that I didn't like as well. You are right. But I don't have the time. I need someone to review my book for me. It tells a good story, but I see more work is needed. I just might decide to leave the book business alone. I can't take care of family and write all the time. I was just trying to tell a story. Someone told me that people are more interested in the story they are not looking at the punctuation marks or comma's etc. Someday I may get my books re-edited. I need a better cover too. I appreciate your thoughts'.
Jacqueline Wash...

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Re: I cannot understand how this works!!
Posted: Nov 1, 2017 12:45 PM   in response to: Mrs Julia Evans in response to: Mrs Julia Evans
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It's not about making money and selling the product. I have a great Job!!! It's about the people. A story to tell, to relax after a very stressful day.
Mrs Julia Evans

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Re: I cannot understand how this works!!
Posted: Nov 1, 2017 1:25 PM   in response to: Jacqueline Wash... in response to: Jacqueline Wash...
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Jacqueline,

I understand what it's like trying to juggle everything at once. I have an extremely stressful day job with a lot of responsibility, which takes up about 50 hours of my week. Add another 15 hours in commuting time. I then have a husband and three kids, elderly parents in poor health, plus all the shopping and household chores that come with the whole family maintenance thing. After all that, I fit in about 50 hours a week writing/editing time.

I've previously joked that I averaged 3 hours of sleep a night for the whole of 2016, but the truth is, it wasn't a joke. That's what I did, in order to produce around 1.2 million words that were worth publishing.

So, while I sympathise with your desire to write your story and have it read, what I don't sympathise with is the attitude that as long as it's readable, and people can get the gist of what you're saying, it's good enough. No, that's not good enough. You're robbing people of their hard earned money, because when they buy a published book, they have a right to expect that it will be of a professional standard. Reading a book littered with mistakes is hardly going to help them de-stress at the end of a long day!

If you haven't got time to get your work to that standard, then un-publish it until you do. Because if you keep taking money off people for a substandard product, then you are indeed that scam artist I referred to in my previous post.

As I've said already, the reason for my previous post was to highlight how many mistakes your book was littered with, and make you see the harsh reality of how poor your English is. I thought I was being kind in a way, because I didn't even begin to tell you how bad your author bio and dedication are, or how your product page contains chapter numbers where it should contain 'Editorial Reviews'.

My intention wasn't to be cruel or embarrass you, but to shake some sense into you.

I think I've got through to you, but what you do with this new-found knowledge is up to you.

What I would suggest, is that you download some English language books from Amazon (there are plenty of free ones to choose from) and study how they're written, the language, the punctuation and the grammar. Learn from them, and improve your English. It will help you when you're ready to re-edit your books. Try joining a writers' group, and see if you can get someone there to help you.

I wouldn't ever suggest you stop writing, because if it's what you need to do to make you happy, then you should do it. Just remember that not every story needs to be published.

Good luck with whatever you do next. J
Jacqueline Wash...

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Re: I cannot understand how this works!!
Posted: Nov 2, 2017 11:37 AM   in response to: Mrs Julia Evans in response to: Mrs Julia Evans
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Yes; I was thinking about what you said. I appreciate the hints. I think I just might get back to the same books eventually. But not right now. I need a break. I thought of getting some English language books later. I don't want my third book to be a disaster. I know you were not being hateful. I needed to see what was the meaning of writing these books. I had no writing skills in writing any book. I think it was the man upstairs. Now I'm stuck with them. This ideal of writing again was something I was not looking for. I once wrote Lyrics only now books that's a little bizarre to me. My Aunt was a writer. She had a book out their somewhere. But now she's gone to haven. Thank you for the ideals. I really needed that.
Mrs Julia Evans

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Re: I cannot understand how this works!!
Posted: Nov 2, 2017 12:04 PM   in response to: Jacqueline Wash... in response to: Jacqueline Wash...
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You're welcome, and good luck. J
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