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How is the printing cost calculated?
Posted: Nov 7, 2017 9:33 PM
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What is the cost of a 250 pages book with 120 pictures? This will be my first book. I want to know a method to calculate the printing costs myself, currently for paperback only. Thanks.
Donna St Felix

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Muhammad Abdun-Nafay wrote:
What is the cost of a 250 pages book with 120 pictures? This will be my first book. I want to know a method to calculate the printing costs myself, currently for paperback only. Thanks.

You would be wise to publish your paperback at CreateSpace (also Amazon).
As you enter your information, your costs will show before you publish.
Cynthia E. Hurst

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Re: How is the printing cost calculated?
Posted: Nov 7, 2017 11:40 PM   in response to: Muhammad Abdun-... in response to: Muhammad Abdun-...
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Please don't keep asking the same question. This is at least the third time. As Donna says, the cost will be calculated for you if you publish the paperback through CreateSpace.
Also, unless they are your own photographs, I hope you have received permission from the copyright holders to reproduce those 120 pictures.
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Posted: Nov 8, 2017 2:37 AM   in response to: Muhammad Abdun-... in response to: Muhammad Abdun-...
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$3.58 on CreateSpace, the platform where things really work! (That's black and white, of course. You don't want to know what color costs.) If it really is 250 pages -- formatted! -- you can price it at $9.99 and make a good royalty on Amazon and a small royalty on Barnes & Noble, which does sell a lot of books. (Choose "expanded distribution" for wide sales.)

(Don't trust KDP to publish a print edition. Don't trust CreateSpace to publish an ebook.)

Good luck! -- NJ

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Re: How is the printing cost calculated?
Posted: Nov 8, 2017 6:51 AM   in response to: Notjohn in response to: Notjohn
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None of these pictures has a copyright. They are taken from the free websites like Google photos and Instagram.
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Ah Amazing! Black and white, cool. What is the price of coloured?
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Muhammad Abdun-Nafay wrote:
None of these pictures has a copyright. They are taken from the free websites like Google photos and Instagram.

Most of the pictures on Google photos and all (or almost all) of the Instagram pictures are copyrighted. Just because you don't see the C-in-a-circle doesn't mean they aren't copyrighted. Just as your text that you write yourself is automatically copyrighted to you, so a picture that someone takes themselves automatically copyrighted to them.

Only use pictures that you took yourself or for which you have paid or have gotten written permission.

(Color pictures in a print book more than double the cost of the book.)
Emily Veinglory

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Posted: Nov 8, 2017 6:57 AM   in response to: Muhammad Abdun-... in response to: Muhammad Abdun-...
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Neither of those are free photo sites. You need to have a rights tranfer by the photographer or proof for every photo that it is CC commercial uses allowed. Otherwise you are going to get your KDP account banned very quickly.
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Posted: Nov 8, 2017 8:59 AM   in response to: Emily Veinglory in response to: Emily Veinglory
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Amazing! How to get permission? Now you are making me really worried.

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Posted: Nov 8, 2017 9:12 AM   in response to: Emily Veinglory in response to: Emily Veinglory
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I actually searched now with the Google advanced search by writing the condition of NO COPYRIGHT FOR COPYING AND DISTRIBUTING INCLUDING COMMERCIAL USE. And I found all the pictures in my book I searched for. You must think. I don't think more than a trifle percentage of pictures on Google pictures will have such a copyright.
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I would NOT rely on the results of a google search for legal advice on whether or not the images are copyrighted. Instagram images posted by individuals who took them are certainly copyrighted.

To get permission, individually contact those who posted the pictures, unless you can unambiguously see an indication attached to the picture (not just have the picture come up in a google search) that it has been put into Creative Commons for free commercial use.

As already noted, you can get banned extremely swiftly for use of copyrighted materials. Don't chance it. And the holders of the copyrights can also sue you.
Donna St Felix

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Re: How is the printing cost calculated?
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Muhammad Abdun-Nafay wrote:
Ah Amazing! Black and white, cool. What is the price of coloured?

Per all of your questions and the replies given to you (across varied forums) I must ask, is your book titled 'The Height of Laziness'?
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Re: How is the printing cost calculated?
Posted: Nov 8, 2017 1:07 PM   in response to: Muhammad Abdun-... in response to: Muhammad Abdun-...
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120 pictures with no permissions.

You're right to be worried.
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What is the price of coloured?

Don't ask!

You might do better with color interior on IngramSpark.

(Don't trust KDP to publish a print edition. Don't trust CreateSpace to publish an ebook.)

Good luck! -- NJ

Notjohn's Guide to E-Book & Print Formatting

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http://notjohnkdp.blogspot.com
Muhammad Abdun-...

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Re: How is the printing cost calculated?
Posted: Nov 8, 2017 9:21 PM   in response to: Donna St Felix in response to: Donna St Felix
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Thanks, a good idea. :-
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