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Paul Granger

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Who is up for the Jackass of the Year Award? This guy!
Posted: Nov 8, 2017 2:53 AM
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Doing my best not to let what I have done totally get me down but here goes.
Because my wife and I are cheap and didn't need a huge laptop, we opted to get a light weight HP with hardly any memory.
We have been having issues with it of late and being a descent sort of bloke, I try to delete some of my files to save a little space.
I deleted two of the writing projects that I have been working on for the last few months. One I started way back in March, GONE! The other in the last two months, GONE!
They didn't just go into the recycling bin, no, Capt. Dickhead here thought and did a solid job of removing the files from the computer. Ran them and the folders they were in through the AVG Shredder. Totally gone!

At this point, I'm totally miffed with myself. Not upset, more agitated.
Joseph M Erhardt

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Re: Who is up for the Jackass of the Year Award? This guy!
Posted: Nov 8, 2017 4:39 AM   in response to: Paul Granger in response to: Paul Granger
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Ouch. Did you print off any hard-copy? Send any copies out to beta readers?
writerbn

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Posted: Nov 8, 2017 5:10 AM   in response to: Paul Granger in response to: Paul Granger
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One word: Dropbox.

A few more words: Any reliable cloud storage service, actually.
Elodie

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Re: Who is up for the Jackass of the Year Award? This guy!
Posted: Nov 8, 2017 5:14 AM   in response to: Paul Granger in response to: Paul Granger
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Ouch! I feel your pain!
I usually copy all folders to a usb, because I'm likely to do something like this too!

I'm very much considered a noob when it comes to pc's but don't they usually make a copy/save of themselves?
Can't you go back to the latest date the pc has done this?
I'm not very technical, but I suppose it's worth a try.
Patrick A. Smith

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Re: Who is up for the Jackass of the Year Award? This guy!
Posted: Nov 8, 2017 5:16 AM   in response to: Paul Granger in response to: Paul Granger
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Paul Granger wrote:
Doing my best not to let what I have done totally get me down but here goes.
Because my wife and I are cheap and didn't need a huge laptop, we opted to get a light weight HP with hardly any memory.
We have been having issues with it of late and being a descent sort of bloke, I try to delete some of my files to save a little space.
I deleted two of the writing projects that I have been working on for the last few months. One I started way back in March, GONE! The other in the last two months, GONE!
They didn't just go into the recycling bin, no, Capt. Dickhead here thought and did a solid job of removing the files from the computer. Ran them and the folders they were in through the AVG Shredder. Totally gone!

At this point, I'm totally miffed with myself. Not upset, more agitated.


Most likely you can get them back... maybe. Find some file recovery software. The best is easeus data recovery. For just a few files its free.
Diana Persaud

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Re: Who is up for the Jackass of the Year Award? This guy!
Posted: Nov 8, 2017 5:18 AM   in response to: Paul Granger in response to: Paul Granger
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Paul Granger wrote:
Doing my best not to let what I have done totally get me down but here goes.
Because my wife and I are cheap and didn't need a huge laptop, we opted to get a light weight HP with hardly any memory.
We have been having issues with it of late and being a descent sort of bloke, I try to delete some of my files to save a little space.
I deleted two of the writing projects that I have been working on for the last few months. One I started way back in March, GONE! The other in the last two months, GONE!
They didn't just go into the recycling bin, no, Capt. Dickhead here thought and did a solid job of removing the files from the computer. Ran them and the folders they were in through the AVG Shredder. Totally gone!

At this point, I'm totally miffed with myself. Not upset, more agitated.


Memory and Hard Disk drive storage space are two different things. You need a large hard disk drive to store files, operating systems and any other programs. Memory is needed (along with a fast processor) to make the programs run smoothly.

USB flash drives $4 or 5 for 32 GB during Walmart's back to school days. With Black Friday deals coming up, I strongly recommend you buy at least two flash drives and back up often.

When you are able to, buy an external hard drive.

I'm wondering how you managed to delete your WIP. Don't you have them labeled in a folder? Like Writing or WIP or DO NOT DELETE ?

If not, I recommend you come up with a folder name so that this doesn't happen again.

Thomas Korzenio...

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Re: Who is up for the Jackass of the Year Award? This guy!
Posted: Nov 8, 2017 5:21 AM   in response to: Paul Granger in response to: Paul Granger
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I feel your pain. I've done the same thing with a novel I've worked on for years. Today, it's a best-seller in an alternate universe!
cdcate

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Posted: Nov 8, 2017 5:23 AM   in response to: Paul Granger in response to: Paul Granger
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I had my laptop stolen a few years back...so consider yourself lucky! I had most stuff on a flash drive, but not all...
Traveler321

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Posted: Nov 8, 2017 6:51 AM   in response to: Paul Granger in response to: Paul Granger
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When you delete a file it isn't really deleted, only the link to it on your system is deleted. There is software out there that can scan your computer for lost files and retrieve them again.

The only time they are actually deleted is when you have removed the link to them and some other file has overwritten it.

I've actually retrieved files myself after accidentally deleted them.
Moshe Ben-Or

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Re: Who is up for the Jackass of the Year Award? This guy!
Posted: Nov 8, 2017 7:49 AM   in response to: Traveler321 in response to: Traveler321
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Nope, he shredded the things. They're gone.

If he can find no backup, his only hope is to rewrite the whole thing from memory, as best he can. Ouch and double ouch. Another testimony to the validity of the Strugatsky Brothers' rule regarding drafts and manuscripts:
"Destroy nothing. Save everything." Just because you think it's not useful today, doesn't mean you won't use it tomorrow.
Traveler321

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Posted: Nov 8, 2017 8:05 AM   in response to: Moshe Ben-Or in response to: Moshe Ben-Or
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You're right, but there still might have been temporary files with the data. The auto-save files in Word can be retrieved.
Patrick A. Smith

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Re: Who is up for the Jackass of the Year Award? This guy!
Posted: Nov 8, 2017 8:45 AM   in response to: Moshe Ben-Or in response to: Moshe Ben-Or
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Moshe Ben-Or wrote:
Nope, he shredded the things. They're gone.

If he can find no backup, his only hope is to rewrite the whole thing from memory, as best he can. Ouch and double ouch. Another testimony to the validity of the Strugatsky Brothers' rule regarding drafts and manuscripts:
"Destroy nothing. Save everything." Just because you think it's not useful today, doesn't mean you won't use it tomorrow.


Unless he set the number of passes on the shredder really high easeus software can recover the document. That being said, saving everything is very important. I can't count the times when I thought a story wasn't worth anything then later I decided it was.
C. Gold

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Re: Who is up for the Jackass of the Year Award? This guy!
Posted: Nov 8, 2017 1:30 PM   in response to: Paul Granger in response to: Paul Granger
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Ouch. I have lost programs I was coding before and after the kick my own butt angry stage, I was able to rewrite what I lost faster than having come up with it in the first place. So, there is some hope that when you get back to writing what you lost, it will come back easier since you'll remember how you got around plot issues. Still, I definitely recommend better naming system if you can so easily delete your WIP. Also backups into the cloud or USB stick or even a USB external hard drive works well. Ugh, let this be a hard lesson everyone here should take to heart - always have backups. Always!
thrasherll

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Re: Who is up for the Jackass of the Year Award? This guy!
Posted: Nov 8, 2017 3:38 PM   in response to: Elodie in response to: Elodie
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I still make copies to a USB (as well as to three different cloud storage sites) but I learned the hard way that USBs don't last forever. I had one that I'd used for probably six or seven years and one day it lost its memory, totally, forever. I understand if you just have data stored on them they'll probably last ten or more years, but if you do a lot of adding, updating, etc., they get old faster. I still use them, I just make sure I have the same info stored elsewhere.

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Brad the wronger

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Re: Who is up for the Jackass of the Year Award? This guy!
Posted: Nov 8, 2017 4:11 PM   in response to: Paul Granger in response to: Paul Granger
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We had a catastrophic data loss a while back, of 3M+ words. At the time, a thumbdrive was plugged into it and we lost that also.
If ordinary data recovery programs don't recover your work, you might consider forensic data recovery. It's expensive, starting at $500 and up to $2000. Even if they aren't able to recover anything, you still need to pay the $500.
Maybe I'm old school, but I just email a copy to myself of whatever I worked on that day.
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