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Bill Edwards

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My experience with KDP
Posted: Nov 20, 2017 12:15 PM
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Hi everybody. Well, I'm happy it's done, finally. It was a learning experience for this old guy, but that's what this old guy needed. I had a typewritten double spaced manuscript that I'd "finished" over 45 years ago, and because I read a lot of Kindle books these days, I decided one day recently to click on that "Publish your book" link on Amazon, and I thought, why not? I had almost zero experience with Word or formatting, and so it was very frustrating at times. But I'm pleased with the final product (my novel Finding Rosie), and very happy to be writing again. It was my dream during my youth, to write serious fiction. And I'm working at it again. Almost 18K words on a new book so far, since just August, and it will be different than Rosie.
So overall I'm giving KDP two thumbs up. I had to re-learn the value and art of patience now and then, but I was determined to do it all on my own.
Mrs Julia Evans

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Re: My experience with KDP
Posted: Nov 20, 2017 1:18 PM   in response to: Bill Edwards in response to: Bill Edwards
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Bill Edwards wrote:
Hi everybody. Well, I'm happy it's done, finally. It was a learning experience for this old guy, but that's what this old guy needed. I had a typewritten double spaced manuscript that I'd "finished" over 45 years ago, and because I read a lot of Kindle books these days, I decided one day recently to click on that "Publish your book" link on Amazon, and I thought, why not? I had almost zero experience with Word or formatting, and so it was very frustrating at times. But I'm pleased with the final product (my novel Finding Rosie), and very happy to be writing again. It was my dream during my youth, to write serious fiction. And I'm working at it again. Almost 18K words on a new book so far, since just August, and it will be different than Rosie.
So overall I'm giving KDP two thumbs up. I had to re-learn the value and art of patience now and then, but I was determined to do it all on my own.

Hi Bill,

Congratulations on the new book, and welcome to the community.

45 years in the making, huh? My dad used to say that if something was worth doing, it was worth taking your time over! I guess you've taken that and run with it. :)

Good luck with sales, and keep writing. The first one is the hardest. Everything that comes after is a piece of cake by comparison.

Best wishes. J
beachgardener

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Re: My experience with KDP
Posted: Nov 20, 2017 1:20 PM   in response to: Bill Edwards in response to: Bill Edwards
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Good for you!!! And welcome to a diverse world of writers of every age and experience. Read the forum and many questions will be answered without asking. Have a question that you cannot find an answer for, ask away - and take all answers with a grain of salt. Many of us, like you, came to KDP in our graying years. It has allowed me a great adventure and I wish you the same. B
Mrs Julia Evans

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Re: My experience with KDP
Posted: Nov 20, 2017 1:21 PM   in response to: Bill Edwards in response to: Bill Edwards
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Hi Bill,

I did write a proper reply, but it got m*derated! (Possibly one of the tab*oo words in your post, which I quoted, got picked up by the bots as sounding a little too much like sp*m! You'll learn all about the spam bots and m*deration!)

Until it comes through... welcome and congrats!

J
cdalebrittain

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Re: My experience with KDP
Posted: Nov 20, 2017 1:49 PM   in response to: Mrs Julia Evans in response to: Mrs Julia Evans
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Julia-- It was deter*mined.

Bill-- Welcome to KDP! Making a book as good as you can and getting it out for (potentially anyway) the world to see is great. And if you sell any copies of your book they give you money! Many of us (like me) came to KDP when not in our première jeunesse, and we figured it out just fine, so I'm glad you did too!
Mrs Julia Evans

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Re: My experience with KDP
Posted: Nov 20, 2017 1:58 PM   in response to: cdalebrittain in response to: cdalebrittain
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cdalebrittain wrote:
Julia-- It was deter*mined.

Grrr! Should have spotted it! Still, at least it turned up this time, and quickly too!

Bill,

Welcome to the world of bizarrely for*bidden words, and str*ngely pl*ced *sterisks!

You'll get used to them.

J ;)
writerbn

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Re: My experience with KDP
Posted: Nov 21, 2017 5:18 AM   in response to: cdalebrittain in response to: cdalebrittain
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cdalebrittain wrote:
Julia-- It was deter*mined.

Well spotted! That one still gets me every now and then.
Joseph M Erhardt

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Re: My experience with KDP
Posted: Nov 21, 2017 5:58 AM   in response to: Bill Edwards in response to: Bill Edwards
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Removed as duplicate.

Edited by: Joseph M Erhardt on Nov 21, 2017 10:03 PM
Joseph M Erhardt

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Re: My experience with KDP
Posted: Nov 21, 2017 6:00 AM   in response to: Bill Edwards in response to: Bill Edwards
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Welcome, Bill. From the thread title, I at first thought it was going to be another rant at KDP. :)

BTW, please go back to your original post and mangle deter*mined. That word, for some reason, triggers an automatic trip to moderation. It's already nailed one responder who wanted to quote your post to comment on it.

There are a number of for*bid*den words that trigger inexplicable moderation. From my list of standard answers:

Current Forbidden Words:


And just FYI:

The KDP forum software has been set up weirdly when it comes to words that will automatically kick your post into moderation. The following words are currently no-nos and must be bowdlerized:

na*ked
phar*macy
deter*mine (in various versions)
center*ing (who knows why?)
R*x
pres*crip*tion (may explain why "description" was a trigger for so long--they searched on "scr*iption" or some-such)
audio*books (though the singular may slip by okay?)
ti*ts (reported by another poster)
pes*tering (new!)
under*mine (new!)
cook*books (new!)

9/13/2017: Evidently some phrase-testing has been added:

Hankies are available o*ver there on the coun*ter.

will trigger a mod, but each of the individual words will not. Bizarre.
Thought: It may be an attempt to catch spam flogging "ov*er-the-coun*ter" meds.


You will still see in various posts people writing the following this way:

char*acter
desc*ription
K*U or Kay Yoo or Kay Yu
Zon for Amazon

as these used to be kickers.

What really gets bad is when someone uses a forbidden word in the thread title and every response to the thread winds up getting modded because posters don't realize they need to modify their post titles to keep that from happening.

All part of the fun of posting here.

Patrick A. Smith

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Re: My experience with KDP
Posted: Nov 21, 2017 10:03 AM   in response to: Bill Edwards in response to: Bill Edwards
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Welcome to the group!

As frr words, why Some r rejected I have no idea, and I'm not deter min ed to find out!
Traveler321

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Re: My experience with KDP
Posted: Nov 21, 2017 2:14 PM   in response to: Bill Edwards in response to: Bill Edwards
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resteasy

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Re: My experience with KDP
Posted: Nov 21, 2017 5:18 PM   in response to: Bill Edwards in response to: Bill Edwards
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Welcome aboard. Hope you have a successful writing future ahead. Just a word to the wise. Your pricing of nearly five dollars for a 164 pages ebook is a bit over optimistic. For a better chance of selling, I'd advise $2.99. That would be more in line with readers' price expectations through the Amazon channel. Well known authors can get away with more because of their popularity.
janni2525

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Re: My experience with KDP
Posted: Nov 22, 2017 8:47 AM   in response to: Bill Edwards in response to: Bill Edwards
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Congratulations to you. Enjoy this great journey. It's a great experience.
Ed Augusts

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Re: My experience with KDP
Posted: Nov 25, 2017 9:11 PM   in response to: Joseph M Erhardt in response to: Joseph M Erhardt
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When I posted more frequently here, 4 or 5 years ago, the frequent and unexplained mod*ding trig*gers were quite a mystery to everyone. But I am simply amazed that in the subsequent years, you have individually and/or collectively evolved faster than the computer program which involves, surrounds and reads us all on this forum, and you've done it so well that you now have become able to track down the specific for*bidden words.
I am baffled and impressed at how some of you did it! After all, any given comment may have 100 or 200 words. How did it come to be that the possible words began to be researched and finally recognized? Did someone make a list of words after their own mod*ding and try out various sub-sets from those possible words in subsequent test-posts? Was the sleuthing the work of one particular frequent poster? Or a team of journeymen wordsmiths?
This subject... tracking down these elusive words... is worthy of being the subject of a Jorge Luis Borges arcane literary mystery tinged with psychism and surrealism. Bravo!
Let's see if I tripped any wires with this message!
Joseph M Erhardt

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Re: My experience with KDP
Posted: Nov 26, 2017 5:42 AM   in response to: Ed Augusts in response to: Ed Augusts
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Ed Augusts wrote:
When I posted more frequently here, 4 or 5 years ago, the frequent and unexplained mod*ding trig*gers were quite a mystery to everyone. But I am simply amazed that in the subsequent years, you have individually and/or collectively evolved faster than the computer program which involves, surrounds and reads us all on this forum, and you've done it so well that you now have become able to track down the specific for*bidden words.
I am baffled and impressed at how some of you did it! After all, any given comment may have 100 or 200 words. How did it come to be that the possible words began to be researched and finally recognized? Did someone make a list of words after their own mod*ding and try out various sub-sets from those possible words in subsequent test-posts? Was the sleuthing the work of one particular frequent poster? Or a team of journeymen wordsmiths?
This subject... tracking down these elusive words... is worthy of being the subject of a Jorge Luis Borges arcane literary mystery tinged with psychism and surrealism. Bravo!
Let's see if I tripped any wires with this message!

After getting modded a few times, I just posted a "sandbox" post which I then edited and re-edited until it would get modded. If I still had the text of the original post (you can actually get that back by hitting the browser back-arrow button a couple of times, selecting the text and copying), then I would do the binary-divide and retry method: I re-post half the original message. If that posted okay, then I'd try half of the other half of the message. If the first half went to moderation, I'd post another message with half of that, etc. It didn't usually take long to figure out what was triggering the mod (obviously really ordinary words like a, an, the, at, in, of, and, how, all, this, that, etc., could be ignored).

I'll tell a story that's now probably safe to tell. For a long time I've moderated a writer's group and sent out a periodic e-mail newsletter to the members. About 2005 or so one of my e-mails failed to send. I knew this because I always included myself in the To list. I re-sent it, and the same thing happened. I figured I picked up a stray non-ASCII character somewhere that was damaging the format of the e-mail, so I began the binary-divide search method. After a few interations--AND after verifying this with a separate, hand-typed e-mail--I found that Comcast's e-mail server was keying on a forbidden telephone number. Based on my separate test e-mail, it was the exchange and number that was forbidden, as the full number, with area code, was that of a publisher somewhere in the midwest. I added a space into the forbidden number and re-sent my original membership e-mail successfully.

Okay--I didn't know if I'd accidentally stumbled on Comcast's CEO's private number, or maybe the number of his paramour, or whether the NSA had asked Comcast to filter out all e-mails with some terrorist's number in it. I was pretty spooked for a couple of days, waiting for that knock on the door in the middle of the night. On the other hand, just gumming up the e-mail like that and not letting it go through was pretty amateur hour. Anyone using that telephone number for nefarious purposes would have soon deter*mined (there's that word again) something was amiss. Ah, well.

Edited by: Joseph M Erhardt on Nov 26, 2017 5:42 AM
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