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William Thompson

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Re: Look inside the Book broken
Posted: Dec 30, 2017 5:23 PM   in response to: Christia Harrane in response to: Christia Harrane
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If your images are fancy -- i.e. less than 100% page height/width or are surrounded by text -- then you could try using either Kindle Text Book Creator or Kindle Create(KC also has a load pdf option which, effectively, gives KC the exactly same capabilities as KTC). Going this route is for Fixed Format ebooks only.

But if your images are not fancy and are all 100% page height/width with all images centered and in-line, then you could try loading your Word doc into Kindle Create and format your doc that way. With a loaded Word doc, KC allows you to directly format text and headers within the app, which is quite handy. If you go this route then you will also get a kpf file which will be converted to a proper Kindle mobi file on upload which would be viewable on all devices -- i.e. no problems with zoom, change font, search etc. Also Enhanced Typsetting will always be assured whenever you use KC with a Word doc.

Why not try my free Sigil plugins now available on MobileRead?

OpenDocHTMLImport - converts ODT HTML(Writer) docs directly to epub.

NormalizeScrivEpub - reformats, finishes off and normalizes Scrivener-generated epubs

LogicalTOCStyler - allows users to easily style the Logical TOC(Device TOC) as they prefer

You can download all these free plugins from The Sigil Plugin Index on the MR Forum

booknookbiz

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Re: Look inside the Book broken
Posted: Dec 30, 2017 6:01 PM   in response to: William Thompson in response to: William Thompson
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William Thompson wrote:
If your images are fancy -- i.e. less than 100% page height/width or are surrounded by text -- then you could try using either Kindle Text Book Creator or Kindle Create(KC also has a load pdf option which, effectively, gives KC the exactly same capabilities as KTC). Going this route is for Fixed Format ebooks only.

But if your images are not fancy and are all 100% page height/width with all images centered and in-line, then you could try loading your Word doc into Kindle Create and format your doc that way. With a loaded Word doc, KC allows you to directly format text and headers within the app, which is quite handy. If you go this route then you will also get a kpf file which will be converted to a proper Kindle mobi file on upload which would be viewable on all devices -- i.e. no problems with zoom, change font, search etc. Also Enhanced Typsetting will always be assured whenever you use KC with a Word doc.


William:

She doesn't have a Word file. That's her issue. (Sorry, my original post confused this poster, with INDD, with another).

She has an INDD file, and the KDP Customer Service crew told her to use KKBC--for a cookbook. That's what's causing her trouble.

She could use the dreaded "export to Word" functionality, from within INDD, but that creates a much bigger mess. She can more easily either a) use KTC, with an output PDF, from the INDD file, or, she can b) try to create a reflowable eBook, using a reflowable ePUB also created by INDD. To do the latter, she'll need to revamp the layout into a single vertical stack.

If she had a "final" laid-out, etc., Word file, I would have given her different instructions/advice.

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Edited by: booknookbiz on Dec 30, 2017 6:02 PM: confused this INDD book with another person having a similar problem, here on the forums.
William Thompson

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Re: Look inside the Book broken
Posted: Dec 30, 2017 6:17 PM   in response to: booknookbiz in response to: booknookbiz
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Well, Hitch, I doubt very much that the poster actually typed her ebook in InDesign. The point being -- what did she load into InDesign in the first place? And since you can only load a Word doc(no other wordprocessor imports are allowed in InDesign), then logically it's also quite probable that she would have loaded a Word doc, unless, of course, the OP is an expert at using Illustrator or other importable Adobe apps which can perhaps be imported as XML.

Perhaps she could answer this question herself. :)
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Re: Look inside the Book broken
Posted: Dec 30, 2017 8:53 PM   in response to: William Thompson in response to: William Thompson
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William Thompson wrote:
Well, Hitch, I doubt very much that the poster actually typed her ebook in InDesign. The point being -- what did she load into InDesign in the first place? And since you can only load a Word doc(no other wordprocessor imports are allowed in InDesign), then logically it's also quite probable that she would have loaded a Word doc, unless, of course, the OP is an expert at using Illustrator or other importable Adobe apps which can perhaps be imported as XML.

Perhaps she could answer this question herself. :)


She could very well have used InCopy. To my never-ending surprise, I've found that a number of people do use it.

However--I've downloaded her book, and it has multi-column, typical recipe-book layout. That's why I made the suggestions I did. Might be easier to go from a reflowable epub-->reflow MOBI. But you're absolutely right, if she has a vertical stack Word file, that's most likely fastest.

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William Thompson

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Re: Look inside the Book broken
Posted: Dec 30, 2017 9:57 PM   in response to: booknookbiz in response to: booknookbiz
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Thanks for the info. To be honest, I only write fiction(thriller-adventure) and non-fiction(health) books and I always keep it simple. I've used InDesign for a while for epub 2 only. And yes, ID is quirky, but it can give you a fair epub -- if you can remember all the ID foibles and secrets. I also learned how to create website book advertising thumbnails using ID macros which was quite useful. And when I switched to Jutoh it was also pretty good but had the disadvantage that it had such a complicated maze of menus and sub-menus that you also had to drill down, navigate and learn. The newer version of Jutoh is actually much simpler to use now because they have sensibly introduced a new properties etc side-panel like LibreOffice. But my favourite is still Scrivener for epub 2 only. I've found that Scrivener epub export gives the fastest, cleanest and most trouble-free start point to finish off my epub in Sigil. I've also written several Sigil plugins(very individual to my own requirements, so not released) to automate and speed up my epub finishing-off process. All in all, it's been quite a long journey of learning, though probably not as long as yours...
Christia Harrane

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Re: Look inside the Book broken
Posted: Jan 1, 2018 2:57 AM   in response to: booknookbiz in response to: booknookbiz
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Thank you so much for all the helpful information

I will eventually build up the next books into reflowable ones. But as I am late on this one I need to have it published asap.
So I tried to export it through KTC to a kpf format. But when I upload it I get an error that the book cannot be downloaded, where the previewer is. And when I publish regardless the look inside is gone. Does that mean there is something wrong with my file?

here is the link
https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B078QPS2S6

Many thanks,
C

William Thompson

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Re: Look inside the Book broken
Posted: Jan 2, 2018 1:54 AM   in response to: Christia Harrane in response to: Christia Harrane
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Well you should be able to see a KTC ebook in the upload KDP preview -- on the Tablet previews at least. And KTC-formatted ebooks have had Kindle Look Inside capability since Dec 2015. So there might well be a problem with your KTC ebook. You might want to contact Kindle Support (link at the bottom of this forum) to enquire about this.

For more info on how to use KTC, this website might be quite useful to you:
https://chrismcmullen.com/2015/07/30/optimizing-amazons-free-kindle-textbook-creator-publishing-tool/
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