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bendad2

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Formatting
Posted: Dec 4, 2017 1:20 PM
 
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I've been reediting and uploading my stuff to the Kindle and have the formatting pretty well down except for paragraph spacing. No matter what I do or attempt to do, the spacing is 'all over the place.' When I try various methods to 'close up' the spacing, nothing happens. This does not look good and does not bode well for looking professional. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I am using Word.

Bentley Dadmun
cdalebrittain

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Re: Formatting
Posted: Dec 4, 2017 1:47 PM   in response to: bendad2 in response to: bendad2
 
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Let's assume you're using Styles. You should be, at any rate, which just means you have defined a Style that you apply to all normal text paragraphs (and another one for chapter headings, etc.).

The Style should have zero extra spacing before a paragraph and zero extra spacing after. You will find this under Format - Paragraph (start with the menus at the top in Word). Once you set and apply this, extra spacing will disappear.

The above assumes you're talking about an ebook (because you mentioned a Kindle). Print users sometimes have problems if, in the same Format - Paragraph menu, they have clicked "keep all lines together." This can lead to big spaces at the bottom of the page. Also, print folks, poke around in the paragraph formatting and find the widow/orphan control. This keeps a paragraph from beginning with just one line at the bottom of a page, or having fewer than two lines at the top of a page. Use it only when you want to use it. Word has a mind of its own if you don't keep on top of it.
Donna St Felix

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Re: Formatting
Posted: Dec 4, 2017 2:09 PM   in response to: bendad2 in response to: bendad2
 
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bendad2 wrote:
I've been reediting and uploading my stuff to the Kindle and have the formatting pretty well down except for paragraph spacing. No matter what I do or attempt to do, the spacing is 'all over the place.' When I try various methods to 'close up' the spacing, nothing happens. This does not look good and does not bode well for looking professional. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I am using Word.

In the paragraph tab area, there is a place to check to not add spaces between paragraphs. Possibly that is your problem.
You need to learn that program. Google can help.
William Thompson

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Re: Formatting
Posted: Dec 4, 2017 4:02 PM   in response to: bendad2 in response to: bendad2
 
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You problem at the moment is that your are not formatting your ebook correctly in Word. To cure all your spacing problems, you must ensure that you use Word paragraph styles properly for all text/heading formatting and for all spacing(space before, space after, indents etc). There are also plenty of Youtube videos that can show you how to use paragraph styles.

Why not try my free Sigil plugins now available on MobileRead?

OpenDocHTMLImport - converts ODT HTML(Writer) docs directly to epub.

NormalizeScrivEpub - reformats, finishes off and normalizes Scrivener-generated epubs

LogicalTOCStyler - allows users to easily style the Logical TOC(Device TOC) as they prefer

You can download all these free plugins from The Sigil Plugin Index on the MR Forum

Salamander Mall...

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Re: Formatting
Posted: Dec 4, 2017 4:44 PM   in response to: bendad2 in response to: bendad2
 
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bendad2 wrote:
I've been reediting and uploading my stuff to the Kindle and have the formatting pretty well down except for paragraph spacing. No matter what I do or attempt to do, the spacing is 'all over the place.' When I try various methods to 'close up' the spacing, nothing happens. This does not look good and does not bode well for looking professional. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I am using Word.

Bentley Dadmun


I assume (being the mind reader I'm not) you're trying to use Word? If you don't know how to use Word as a formatting tool, relying entirely on Styles, it doesn't matter how many times you reformat and resubmit, it's always going to come out a mess. Stop. Give up. Stop using Word as a magic typewriter. Stop beating your head against a brick wall. Go away and learn how to use Word/Styles & Formatting. There are numerous tutorials on YouTube. Then come back format your book and upload. Or hire someone who can do the heavy lifting for you.
Mariastjohn

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Re: Formatting
Posted: Dec 4, 2017 8:02 PM   in response to: bendad2 in response to: bendad2
 
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Ignore the advice to use Word. The Great Guru on here recommends against it and he is always right. Word is not suitable to format ebooks and no indie has yet created a well formatted ebook using word. I suggest you get Jamie Oliver's "Cooking an Ebook" and read page 72 about formatting. This is the only way to create decent ebooks. Word just doesn't cut the mustard.
The Great Guru says so.
Donna St Felix

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Re: Formatting
Posted: Dec 4, 2017 8:07 PM   in response to: Mariastjohn in response to: Mariastjohn
 
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Mariastjohn wrote:
.... and no indie has yet created a well formatted ebook using word.

WRONG!
olivia

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Re: Formatting
Posted: Dec 5, 2017 4:53 AM   in response to: Mariastjohn in response to: Mariastjohn
 
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hi .im new and am wanting to get my book out for xmas. i have drafted it out and am now using what ive been advised to use which is word, for the editing and creation, as im told this is perfect for converting then to pdf, which is what amazon require, isnt it?
anyway im struggling like mad, as im not computer literate. though i have done all my own illustrations
can anyone please help and advise the best way to create and produce my ebook for the kindle ebook store

thankyou
elizabeth
William Thompson

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Re: Formatting
Posted: Dec 5, 2017 5:41 AM   in response to: olivia in response to: olivia
 
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Olivia...We would love to help you but, unfortunately, you give such scant information.

How can we help and advise you if you don't tell us what kind of book you want to format ? -- Is it fiction, non-fiction, a cookbook, a travel book, a kids book, a text book, a comic book, a magazine etc.etc.

Can you please give us some more details about your ebook?
cdalebrittain

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Re: Formatting
Posted: Dec 5, 2017 6:52 AM   in response to: olivia in response to: olivia
 
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Olivia--

You say you want an ebook. But in that case you do NOT want to produce a PDF. A PDF is good only for a print book or for a fixed-format book, such as a comic book or a kids' book that's mostly illustrations (is that what you mean?).

A Word document can work just fine for an ebook as long as you use Styles. Word itself explains Styles, and there are tutorials on YouTube.
Tripod Solution...

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Re: Formatting
Posted: Dec 5, 2017 11:31 AM   in response to: cdalebrittain in response to: cdalebrittain
 
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The best way to produce a perfect eBook ? Using HTML. Ebook will be stable and you'll have perfect control over images.

Good luck!

Charles G. Koonitz
99 Formatting Tips for Nonfiction eBooks
Kelly Collins

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Re: Formatting
Posted: Dec 8, 2017 10:53 AM   in response to: bendad2 in response to: bendad2
 
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Yes, learn to use the paragraphs styles, then go to format in the styles, then the paragraph spacing option will show up.

Or if doing it manually click the little tiny arrow button under paragraph in the ribbon area and control it from there.

There is an awesome book by Microsoft called Step by Step Word 2016 that I highly recommend. You might find it at a library or online. Even if you are not using 2016, I would get the book. It is laid out so simple to follow. I learned my way thru building my book on word with that.
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