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alexander mahan

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Page numbers? Help please
Posted: Dec 6, 2017 3:16 PM
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I purchased a copy of my book and there are no page numbers on it. Does anyone know how to fix this?????????

I would appreciate it.
Ned Kelly

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Re: Page numbers? Help please
Posted: Dec 6, 2017 3:21 PM   in response to: alexander mahan in response to: alexander mahan
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Alexander,

1. If it's an ebook it does not have page numbers. Even if you included them in say an MS Word doc and placed page numbers in the footer, these would not be reproduced in the ebook and one word page does not equal one ebook (or Kindle page)

2. If it was a paperback through Create Space (or whatever) you need to insert page numbering in the footer (if using MS WORD)

Cheers

Ned
alexander mahan

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Re: Page numbers? Help please
Posted: Dec 6, 2017 3:40 PM   in response to: Ned Kelly in response to: Ned Kelly
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Thanks what is a footer? I’m guess at the bottom
But the problem is that the book formats itself in the editer program and the font is a lot larger in the book then it is in the editor Program. Any way to put page numbers in the kdp program
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Posted: Dec 6, 2017 4:03 PM   in response to: alexander mahan in response to: alexander mahan
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alexander mahan wrote:
Thanks what is a footer? I’m guess at the bottom
But the problem is that the book formats itself in the editer program and the font is a lot larger in the book then it is in the editor Program. Any way to put page numbers in the kdp program

I assume it's an ebook. If so simply forget about page numbering. Not a good idea to try fiddling with methods of doing it with yr first effort - others will explain why.

My suggestion for fonts is to use Time New Roman 12 point - this will be acceptable to the ebook formatting program used in KDP - and will convert to whatever font is resident in the Kindle devices (I forget which one it is, possibly Bookerly or Georgia - however I'd suggest don't try to get too complicated with fonts - use what works until you get up the learning curve - it's the story/writing that counts)

for the first timer KEEP IT SIMPLE!

CHeers

Ned

C. Gold

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Re: Page numbers? Help please
Posted: Dec 6, 2017 5:13 PM   in response to: alexander mahan in response to: alexander mahan
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If you are talking about an ebook, your Word document page numbers will be stripped away because the ereader does it's own numbering. Right now I'm reading a book on Kindle for PC and at the bottom of the reader app it says: 36% Page 122 of 352 * Location 1990 of 5598. Ereaders do this because the page numbering changes depending on font, font size, and how much text is displayed on the screen at a time. If you tried to keep the page numbers, they wouldn't make sense with the dynamic scrolling pagination of ereaders.

If you are trying to create a paperback and don't know what a footer is, then you are in trouble. You can search the internet for "how to format a paperback" and see plenty of How To's. You'll have to learn about headers, footers, and margins for left and right pages to accommodate the way pages are bound together. Here you will want to worry about page numbers and have page numbers in the table of contents. There are free or purchasable templates out there if you want a leg up in learning this aspect, but I recommend looking at a few primers so you know what's going on.
alexander mahan

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Posted: Dec 6, 2017 5:17 PM   in response to: C. Gold in response to: C. Gold
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It is a paperback book. Any way to fix it so it has page numbers in the book from the book editor
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Re: Page numbers? Help please
Posted: Dec 6, 2017 5:28 PM   in response to: alexander mahan in response to: alexander mahan
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alexander mahan wrote:
It is a paperback book. Any way to fix it so it has page numbers in the book from the book editor

You fix your original and upload it right over the existing copy. Start by reading the various tool bars at the top of your computer's page. Headers, footers, page numbers, it is all there. If you get stuck ask again. B
Ralph E Vaughan

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Re: Page numbers? Help please
Posted: Dec 6, 2017 5:31 PM   in response to: alexander mahan in response to: alexander mahan
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alexander mahan wrote:
It is a paperback book. Any way to fix it so it has page numbers in the book from the book editor

Correct your source file and upload it over the old. It's up to you to make your book look like you want it before you upload it, everything from proper pagination to title and indicia pages. Not sure what you mean by "book editor." If you mean the previewer, that's only so you can make sure everything is right and proper before you actually click publish. Good luck with your project.
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Posted: Dec 6, 2017 5:38 PM   in response to: alexander mahan in response to: alexander mahan
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You need to put page numbers in your document using whichever word processor you are using. I strongly recommend getting a template to help you out because you need to have separate left and right pages to accommodate the fact that they are bound together. Typically the margin is a bit wider where the paper will be bound than it is on the edge that is free. Also, your header and/or footer will change based on which side it is on. You can go with super easy and just use a footer with the page number centered. I used a template which had the author name as well as book name on alternating pages. Definitely recommend searching for tutorials and get an idea of how to do this.
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Posted: Dec 6, 2017 6:55 PM   in response to: alexander mahan in response to: alexander mahan
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Alex Create Space has free templates for a range of page dimensions (I use 6 x 9 ) These work fine for me, with the correct margin settings and alternate pages etc. I've always found it simple to transfer the text from my WP (WORD) if I've written it already, into the template and make minor adjustments where needed Then create a PDF and upload it. (with cover uploaded separately) Use the previewer to make corrections (some will be advised) then when all OK order a pre release sample, inspect at you leisure - make corrections again to your master MS and repeat the process.)

Have fun

Ned
Notjohn

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Re: Page numbers? Help please
Posted: Dec 7, 2017 2:37 AM   in response to: C. Gold in response to: C. Gold
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because you need to have separate left and right pages to accommodate the fact that they are bound together

Both Word and OpenOffice Writer will cue up "mirrored" pages. I actually do this in Word, before I switch the roughed-out layout to OOW for final tweaking.

@OP: assuming I want to keep the page count (and hence the price) down, I use 0.5 inch margins on the three outside edges and 0.6 or 0.7 inches on the gutter (inside), with no header and the page numbers in the footer. I've never used a template. This is a task well within the capabilities of both those word processors, and probably most others (I don't know; never tried another).

(Don't trust KDP to publish a print edition. Don't trust CreateSpace to publish an ebook. Each does one thing well and the other thing poorly.)

Good luck! -- NJ

Notjohn's Guide to E-Book & Print Formatting

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http://notjohnkdp.blogspot.com
C. Gold

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Re: Page numbers? Help please
Posted: Dec 7, 2017 4:15 AM   in response to: Notjohn in response to: Notjohn
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Notjohn wrote:
because you need to have separate left and right pages to accommodate the fact that they are bound together

Both Word and OpenOffice Writer will cue up "mirrored" pages. I actually do this in Word, before I switch the roughed-out layout to OOW for final tweaking.

@OP: assuming I want to keep the page count (and hence the price) down, I use 0.5 inch margins on the three outside edges and 0.6 or 0.7 inches on the gutter (inside), with no header and the page numbers in the footer. I've never used a template. This is a task well within the capabilities of both those word processors, and probably most others (I don't know; never tried another).

(Don't trust KDP to publish a print edition. Don't trust CreateSpace to publish an ebook. Each does one thing well and the other thing poorly.)

Good luck! -- NJ

Notjohn's Guide to E-Book & Print Formatting

The blog: http://notjohnkdp.blogspot.com

Given enough technical savvy, I'm sure any word processor can do what you need. However, not everyone is up to speed on the technical, and if that's the case, a template can help tremendously. I assumed from the OP's question that they fell in the later category.
Salamander Mall...

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Re: Page numbers? Help please
Posted: Dec 7, 2017 7:44 AM   in response to: C. Gold in response to: C. Gold
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C. Gold wrote:
Notjohn wrote:
because you need to have separate left and right pages to accommodate the fact that they are bound together

Both Word and OpenOffice Writer will cue up "mirrored" pages. I actually do this in Word, before I switch the roughed-out layout to OOW for final tweaking.

@OP: assuming I want to keep the page count (and hence the price) down, I use 0.5 inch margins on the three outside edges and 0.6 or 0.7 inches on the gutter (inside), with no header and the page numbers in the footer. I've never used a template. This is a task well within the capabilities of both those word processors, and probably most others (I don't know; never tried another).

(Don't trust KDP to publish a print edition. Don't trust CreateSpace to publish an ebook. Each does one thing well and the other thing poorly.)

Good luck! -- NJ

Notjohn's Guide to E-Book & Print Formatting

The blog: http://notjohnkdp.blogspot.com

Given enough technical savvy, I'm sure any word processor can do what you need. However, not everyone is up to speed on the technical, and if that's the case, a template can help tremendously. I assumed from the OP's question that they fell in the later category.

Given that the OP assumed that page numbers, a TOC and an index would magically be created for him, perhaps there's a third category?
C. Gold

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Re: Page numbers? Help please
Posted: Dec 7, 2017 1:31 PM   in response to: Salamander Mall... in response to: Salamander Mall...
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I was being optimistic ;)
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