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Dapo Sodade

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Can WRITING be a full time job?
Posted: Dec 29, 2017 5:37 PM
 
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It doesn't seem a writer truly can survive on writing as a full time job to me. How are you guys surviving, sincerely?

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Jonathan B

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Posted: Dec 29, 2017 6:01 PM   in response to: Dapo Sodade in response to: Dapo Sodade
 
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I make my living as a writer. It took me four years to have the confidence to quit my other job, but I am glad I did. This is a much better lifestyle.
priya sood

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Posted: Dec 29, 2017 7:07 PM   in response to: Jonathan B in response to: Jonathan B
 
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Making Writing a full time profession required loads of patience, courage and some lonely moments. From what I have gathered by articles in Reader's Digest and other materials, one can do it. It can be clubbed with workshops, seminars as well.
Aaron James Fra...

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Posted: Dec 30, 2017 3:15 AM   in response to: Jonathan B in response to: Jonathan B
 
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How many books are you sitting on at the moment in your catalogue, Jonathan?
the_peartree

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Posted: Dec 30, 2017 6:27 AM   in response to: Dapo Sodade in response to: Dapo Sodade
 
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Yes, it can. It takes a lot of work, a lot of study and a little luck. Next year I think I'm going to publish less and take some time off, mainly because I'm horrified by the amount of tax I now have to pay to a spendthrift government.
Jonathan B

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Posted: Dec 30, 2017 8:32 AM   in response to: Aaron James Fra... in response to: Aaron James Fra...
 
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I have 52 titles. Of those, 32 titles are novels: the rest are shorts and omnibus volumes of some sort.

The vast majority of my income comes from whatever is my last six months' work. I've got one title from 2013 that generates a reasonable amount of income (a trilogy), then I've got a series that started in 2014 that does well, but the key is to keep pumping out new books. The backlist casts a wider net by which people find me, but it is my current books that shoulder the revenue burden.

Just for grins, I ran a BookReport for the year. My oldest nine books (excluding the trilogy) generated slightly over one percent of my revenue on Amazon (the percentage is higher on Createspace and Audible, I would guess).
Brad the wronger

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Posted: Dec 30, 2017 9:47 AM   in response to: Jonathan B in response to: Jonathan B
 
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Just exactly how many ghost writers do you have working for you? It seems like every week I get a email from Amazon telling me to go buy another new book of yours.
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Posted: Dec 30, 2017 10:49 AM   in response to: Dapo Sodade in response to: Dapo Sodade
 
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Yes, you can survive on writing full time, but it isn't just the money you need to consider when taking the leap to do nothing but write.
I went fulltime several years ago, but it's a very lonely existence. That's why I decided to look for work again now. I'm looking for a job -either fulltime or parttime, I don't care- solemnly for the purpose of talking to people again. The only people I talk to now are my partner when he's home, my cats and a bunch of people on fora like this that I don't actually know.
Aaron James Fra...

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Posted: Dec 30, 2017 12:39 PM   in response to: Elodie in response to: Elodie
 
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For a minute there I thought you said "flora", and under those circumstances I would agree that talking to plants probably isn't helpful. Unless it's a particularly well-read nasturtium or witty buttercup. But keep away from those photinias. In fact, keep away from the whole Rosaceae family... some of them can be unapologetically thorny.

On a side note, I have a part-time job myself but it doesn't seem to be saving my mental health, as you can tell.
Elodie

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Unfortunately, all my plants have died this winter, so I own a backgarden full of only weeds now.
They're not the type of plants I want to talk to, they're the type I want to just shoo off.
Jonathan B

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Posted: Dec 30, 2017 3:02 PM   in response to: Brad the wronger in response to: Brad the wronger
 
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Brad the wronger wrote:
Just exactly how many ghost writers do you have working for you? It seems like every week I get a email from Amazon telling me to go buy another new book of yours.

It's just me. I'm finally collaborating with someone else, but that one isn't finished yet. I'm doing two more collaborations in the coming months as well. But so far, it's just little 'ole me.

I hope you are obeying the Amazon directive, though! :)
Jonathan B

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Posted: Dec 30, 2017 3:05 PM   in response to: Elodie in response to: Elodie
 
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Elodie wrote:
Yes, you can survive on writing full time, but it isn't just the money you need to consider when taking the leap to do nothing but write.
I went fulltime several years ago, but it's a very lonely existence. That's why I decided to look for work again now. I'm looking for a job -either fulltime or parttime, I don't care- solemnly for the purpose of talking to people again. The only people I talk to now are my partner when he's home, my cats and a bunch of people on fora like this that I don't actually know.

This is a very real factor, and it is a big reason I go to six or seven conventions a year. Also, at a recent writers-only conference, I found out that quite a few successful writers live in my city, so we've been trying to get together once a week or so.
Jonathan B

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Posted: Dec 30, 2017 3:05 PM   in response to: Aaron James Fra... in response to: Aaron James Fra...
 
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Aaron James Francis wrote:
For a minute there I thought you said "flora", and under those circumstances I would agree that talking to plants probably isn't helpful. Unless it's a particularly well-read nasturtium or witty buttercup. But keep away from those photinias. In fact, keep away from the whole Rosaceae family... some of them can be unapologetically thorny.

On a side note, I have a part-time job myself but it doesn't seem to be saving my mental health, as you can tell.


:)
Brad the wronger

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Re: Can WRITING be a full time job?
Posted: Dec 30, 2017 4:30 PM   in response to: Jonathan B in response to: Jonathan B
 
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obeying the Amazon directive

My interest in scifi is fairly limited. Liege and Gracie pushed my boundaries. I'm lagging behind in my reading anyway. I do recommend them to others, though.

What I'm waiting for is a medical mercenary series. A studly blue-eyed 60yo corpsman leading a small team of medics and grunts, doing DoD rescue and recovery jobs. Of course, one of them would be a sexy 20-something yo medic, just out and needing work. There would have to be some late night utility hanky panky, just because they can. (Who doesn't look good in civ utilities?) I can see a series around them. Raqqa, Diqla, some mountainous 'stan, the Mog, Gaza.
C. Gold

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Re: Can WRITING be a full time job?
Posted: Dec 30, 2017 5:52 PM   in response to: Aaron James Fra... in response to: Aaron James Fra...
 
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Glad I'm not the only one who read that as flora. I sometimes talk to plants but so far they haven't talked back. Yet.

I have a rich online gaming life, so there's friends I hear if not see. I never really got close to anyone at work when I worked, so I wouldn't seek work to find more.
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