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grms@oceanfree....

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Has amazon problems?
Posted: Jan 1, 2018 12:11 PM
 
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My second attempt. I uploaded an ebook to amazon this evening, and it showed errors which the original, on my computer did not have.
Diana Persaud

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Re: Has amazon problems?
Posted: Jan 1, 2018 1:34 PM   in response to: grms@oceanfree.... in response to: grms@oceanfree....
 
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Did you format your book correctly?
grms@oceanfree....

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Re: Has amazon problems?
Posted: Jan 1, 2018 2:07 PM   in response to: Diana Persaud in response to: Diana Persaud
 
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Well, thats the question is it not!.. I wrote it in Ascii and filtered it through pandoc before uploading it. Since, I have used the Ruby::Redcarpet filter, which is not quite as
comprehensive, but the file uploaded and passed the spellchecker.

The original seemed all right when I viewed it in Firefox, but seemed to have a lot of garbage added when viewed on Amazon preview
Donna St Felix

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Posted: Jan 1, 2018 2:12 PM   in response to: grms@oceanfree.... in response to: grms@oceanfree....
 
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grms@oceanfree.net wrote:
Well, thats the question is it not!.. I wrote it in Ascii and filtered it through pandoc before uploading it. Since, I have used the Ruby::Redcarpet filter, which is not quite as
comprehensive, but the file uploaded and passed the spellchecker.

The original seemed all right when I viewed it in Firefox, but seemed to have a lot of garbage added when viewed on Amazon preview


Try putting your manuscript in a formatted Word.doc and uploading that.
MR R J LAIDLER

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Posted: Jan 1, 2018 2:17 PM   in response to: grms@oceanfree.... in response to: grms@oceanfree....
 
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It is just as simple as Donna says. There are more complex ways but Word does the job - if you know how to use it. :)
Ralph E Vaughan

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Posted: Jan 1, 2018 2:35 PM   in response to: grms@oceanfree.... in response to: grms@oceanfree....
 
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grms@oceanfree.net wrote:
Well, thats the question is it not!.. I wrote it in Ascii and filtered it through pandoc before uploading it. Since, I have used the Ruby::Redcarpet filter, which is not quite as
comprehensive, but the file uploaded and passed the spellchecker.

The original seemed all right when I viewed it in Firefox, but seemed to have a lot of garbage added when viewed on Amazon preview


The thing about uploading to KDP for conversion is that nothing is ever added, but invisible "garbage" behind the scenes is often revealed. If you take the time to learn Styles you can use something as simple as Word and have decent results or you could format in HTML and have more control over the final product. There are lots of tips in the Formatting Forum, loads of video tutorials on YouTube. Good luck.
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Posted: Jan 2, 2018 3:26 AM   in response to: Donna St Felix in response to: Donna St Felix
 
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Word is a microsoft product. I will not use it, or Libreoffice. The first book I uploaded to amazon, I wrote in Libreoffice, saved as HTML, and it was passed
by the initial test. It was withdrawn immediatlly, some of the HTML tags were mistranslated.
Besides, I have a stress pain in my elbow from using the mouse.

I entered the original question to find out whether the problem with garbage character was on Amazon's side or mine. It seems to have been on Amazon's,
as recent uploads have been ok.
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Posted: Jan 2, 2018 3:35 AM   in response to: grms@oceanfree.... in response to: grms@oceanfree....
 
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At this point, my original question about amazon has become irrelevent, so I would propose that this thread be killed?
chris

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Posted: Jan 2, 2018 5:31 AM   in response to: grms@oceanfree.... in response to: grms@oceanfree....
 
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Save your document to filtered HTML (or just HTML if you aren't using Word), which you then zip, and upload. This method has worked well for me for over two years.

If you don't like Word, because you dislike MS, then you could use another program like WordPerfect and save to HTML and it will work. I have a friend who prefers WordPerfect for all things and his book uploaded fine -- he saved the document to HTML first. Then he zipped it. Then he uploaded it to Amazon.

I'm guessing it will work the same with other word processing programs.
Gary O'Riley

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Re: Has amazon problems?
Posted: Jan 2, 2018 6:00 AM   in response to: chris in response to: chris
 
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For years I've used WPS Office, by Kingsoft. Basically it's MS Office, but built by the Chinese. It's free to download.

Many Americans don't trust it, because they're worried the Chinese will somehow use it to spy on them. But to my mind It's no different to the NSA spying on us via MS products!

I trust neither the Chinese, Americans, my own UK government, or the EU, or the Russians!
Salamander Mall...

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Posted: Jan 2, 2018 6:44 AM   in response to: grms@oceanfree.... in response to: grms@oceanfree....
 
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grms@oceanfree.net wrote:
Word is a microsoft product. I will not use it, or Libreoffice. The first book I uploaded to amazon, I wrote in Libreoffice, saved as HTML, and it was passed
by the initial test. It was withdrawn immediatlly, some of the HTML tags were mistranslated.
Besides, I have a stress pain in my elbow from using the mouse.

I entered the original question to find out whether the problem with garbage character was on Amazon's side or mine. It seems to have been on Amazon's,
as recent uploads have been ok.


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B.L. Alley

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Re: Has amazon problems?
Posted: Jan 2, 2018 6:53 AM   in response to: grms@oceanfree.... in response to: grms@oceanfree....
 
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I use LibreOffice Writer to write my books. It works great. The error isn't with the software. The error stems from trying to use software not well suited to create an html ebook. Modern word processors add a slew of junk behind the scenes to create the ages you see, but that hidden coding is always going to gum up the works when passing it through an automatic converter. I advise everyone to find ebook creation software and learn how to import the doc and clean up the code. You not only end up with a better conversion, but you're left with a functioning ebook you can use for proof and beta reading, or to loan to friends and family.

The bottom line is this: there is no magic button able to convert any document into a clean ebook. As the computer geeks were once fond of saying "Garbage In, Garbage Out."
grms@oceanfree....

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Posted: Jan 2, 2018 7:40 AM   in response to: B.L. Alley in response to: B.L. Alley
 
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Generally agreed. it all has to be checked . which is why KDP's reviewer is very good.

Amazing how many people have never heard of Markdown
Notjohn

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Re: Has amazon problems?
Posted: Jan 2, 2018 7:43 AM   in response to: B.L. Alley in response to: B.L. Alley
 
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Modern word processors add a slew of junk behind the scenes to create the ages you see, but that hidden coding is always going to gum up the works when passing it through an automatic converter.

@OP: this is the truth of the matter. Amazon didn't add any garbage to your file; the garbage was already there.

The bottom line is this: there is no magic button able to convert any document into a clean ebook.

Well, not into a clean EBOOK, perhaps, but actually there is a magic button to clean up the garbage in Word. All you need do is run it through Word2CleanHtml dot com online. (There are other ways to accomplish the same thing, including a plug-in for Word, but Word2CleanHtml is so fast and easy that I have never troubled with them.

Of course this gives you an html file, not an ebook, and you really need a style sheet to go along with it. My style sheet is on my blog for anyone to use or adapt. I build an epub using the free and powerful Sigil software. The epub converts just fine on the KDP, and of course also for Apple, Barnes & Noble, Google, Overdrive (for libraries), and indeed ever other online bookseller or aggregator. (I use Draft2Digital for most booksellers apart from Amazon and Google.)

(Don't trust KDP to publish a print edition. Don't trust CreateSpace to publish an ebook. Each does one thing well and the other thing poorly.)

Good luck! -- NJ

Notjohn's Guide to E-Book & Print Formatting (2018 edition)

The blog: https://notjohnkdp.blogspot.com
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