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Kevin Quiad

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Paperback Book Cost
Posted: Jan 2, 2018 6:50 AM
 
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Hi
Can you give me a rough estimation to print approx 200page 60000 word book
Salamander Mall...

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Posted: Jan 2, 2018 6:53 AM   in response to: Kevin Quiad in response to: Kevin Quiad
 
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Upload at CreateSpace. The pricing tool will give you the minimum price and you can go from there.
B.L. Alley

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Posted: Jan 2, 2018 6:55 AM   in response to: Kevin Quiad in response to: Kevin Quiad
 
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CreateSpace has a price calculator for Author copies here. Once there click the right tab labeled 'Buying Copies'.
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Posted: Jan 2, 2018 6:59 AM   in response to: Kevin Quiad in response to: Kevin Quiad
 
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I'm assuming you mean what you should price such a book at? My books are roughly that length (60-65,000 words and a little over 200 pages) and I price them at $6.99. That doesn't give much of a royalty, I admit, but I don't sell many paperbacks compared to e-books, so it doesn't bother me.I just want to have the paperback version available for those who want it. They're also a lot cheaper than your average paperback at, say, Barnes & Noble.
Notjohn

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Posted: Jan 2, 2018 7:11 AM   in response to: Kevin Quiad in response to: Kevin Quiad
 
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Can you give me a rough estimation to print approx 200page 60000 word book

$3.25-$3.50 at CreateSpace, probably the same on the much inferior KDP Print.

Use 5.5x8.5 inches, not 6x9, which will be too skinny.

I sell at $10.95 or $12.95, whichever will give me about a $1.50 royalty on "expanded distribution," which serves Amazon's stores in Canada and Australia as well as Barnes & Noble etc.

(Don't trust KDP to publish a print edition. Don't trust CreateSpace to publish an ebook. Each does one thing well and the other thing poorly.)

Good luck! -- NJ

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B.L. Alley

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Posted: Jan 2, 2018 7:17 AM   in response to: Cynthia E. Hurst in response to: Cynthia E. Hurst
 
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I price my paperbacks by rounding up to the next .99 above the minimum price for which I can sell them. Their presence is more important than making money from them.
Duane Dingle

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Posted: Jan 2, 2018 8:34 AM   in response to: B.L. Alley in response to: B.L. Alley
 
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It's interesting to see the different approaches to pricing. I originally priced my 85-100K novels at $12.99 for the 6x9" version, and then two years later, I changed the format to 5.25x8" (it looks much more professional) and raised it to $16.99. I ended up selling almost double the retail paperback versions in 2017 over the year before, but the expanded distribution pretty much remained the same. I believe most of that expanded distribution is libraries.

I expect that if you lower your pricing compared to the other paperbacks out there in your genre it reflects poorly on the quality of the content of the book. But I only raised my paperback prices when I got a lot of positive feedback from my readers, raising my confidence with my works. Mind you, it takes me a year to write a book and I don't expect that to change, and it's not with my current project. If I could put a book out everything or four months, then I would certainly lower my ebook and paperback prices to reflect that.
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Posted: Jan 2, 2018 8:43 AM   in response to: Duane Dingle in response to: Duane Dingle
 
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You're dismissing an important element which allowed you to raise your prices and see more success; you already had success and an established reader base. Marketing books is completely different when an author has no readers.
Duane Dingle

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Posted: Jan 2, 2018 9:08 AM   in response to: B.L. Alley in response to: B.L. Alley
 
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That's true, but I did say I initially went in at $12.99 (giving me about $0.50 on Expanded distribution, which I didn't stated), but I'm not sure how much of a difference that initial cheaper price would have made at the start since I expect it was perceived as a cheap price because of cheap quality. If we are making 70% on an ebook that sells 100/1 over a paperback, why not try for 30% margin on the paper back and see how it goes. If the ebooks are not selling well at market entry, and I don't think most do without marketing, then the paperbacks won't either.
John

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Posted: Jan 2, 2018 11:26 AM   in response to: Duane Dingle in response to: Duane Dingle
 
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As an avid reader, I would never buy a book for more than $8.00 even if it was award winning or ground breaking. Personally, from a reader's POV I like to see books under the $10.00 range otherwise regardless of quality, I would look elsewhere for cheaper books even going so far as to get out my Kindle which I hate reading from (I prefer hard copies). Often if a book comes out that's hyped to be fantastic, and it costs a lot I would wait a year until it's available cheaper. Perhaps this explains the lack of sales on print books.

But don't take my word for it.
Donna St Felix

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Posted: Jan 2, 2018 11:29 AM   in response to: John in response to: John
 
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John wrote:
As an avid reader, I would never buy a book for more than $8.00 even if it was award winning or ground breaking. Personally, from a reader's POV I like to see books under the $10.00 range otherwise regardless of quality, I would look elsewhere for cheaper books even going so far as to get out my Kindle which I hate reading from (I prefer hard copies). Often if a book comes out that's hyped to be fantastic, and it costs a lot I would wait a year until it's available cheaper. Perhaps this explains the lack of sales on print books.

You are missing out on many good books that are not discounted.
John

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Posted: Jan 2, 2018 11:48 AM   in response to: Donna St Felix in response to: Donna St Felix
 
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Discounted books are fine, but like many readers it's all about the money. Many writers (myself included) think that our books are so under-valued that we worry if we're cheating ourselves by lowering the price. We want to sell our books. But the reader doesn't care about the writer's net gains or financial situation. Readers want cheap books, never forget that, hence the term "struggling writer" or "starving artist".
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Posted: Jan 2, 2018 11:54 AM   in response to: John in response to: John
 
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John wrote:
Discounted books are fine, but like many readers it's all about the money. Many writers (myself included) think that our books are so under-valued that we worry if we're cheating ourselves by lowering the price. We want to sell our books. But the reader doesn't care about the writer's net gains or financial situation. Readers want cheap books, never forget that, hence the term "struggling writer" or "starving artist".

I think it depends on what type of book it is.
I have one with just thirty photos that retails for $24.95 in paperback.
It sells!
beachgardener

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Posted: Jan 2, 2018 12:13 PM   in response to: John in response to: John
 
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John wrote:
Discounted books are fine, but like many readers it's all about the money. Many writers (myself included) think that our books are so under-valued that we worry if we're cheating ourselves by lowering the price. We want to sell our books. But the reader doesn't care about the writer's net gains or financial situation. Readers want cheap books, never forget that, hence the term "struggling writer" or "starving artist".

You are quite right I think that the reader doesn't care about our net costs or gains but totally wrong about what the readers want. I believe the do not want cheap, they want quality - quality at a reasonable price. The biggest and best reason a book is not selling is not the price, nor the cover, or the font, or even if it does or does not have a table of contents - it is the quality of the contents. Discounts won't make a poor read good. The availability of a paperback may help the e book sell - a five dollar e book looks like a bargain next to a twelve dollar paperback, and I will admit some genre do sell better in paperback, but I think it is a digital world and the digital book is the real future of a serious writer.
I will get down off my soapbox now. B
Notjohn

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Posted: Jan 2, 2018 12:20 PM   in response to: John in response to: John
 
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As an avid reader, I would never buy a book for more than $8.00

Then you're not an avid reader but merely a tightfisted one.

Actually, most of the books I buy cost $15 or more. If I want to read for cheap, I just borrow the books from the state e-brary. I line them up five at a time and happily wait until they become available; then I get two weeks to read one. On Amazon, those freebies generally cost $10-$20.

(Don't trust KDP to publish a print edition. Don't trust CreateSpace to publish an ebook. Each does one thing well and the other thing poorly.)

Good luck! -- NJ

Notjohn's Guide to E-Book & Print Formatting (2018 edition)

The blog: https://notjohnkdp.blogspot.com
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