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gshacte

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Does location as reported on the on-line previewer relate to num of pages?
Posted: Feb 4, 2018 2:23 PM
 
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I am close to satisfied with the appearance of my book (verse) on the on-line previewer. As I page through it on the previewer, the 'Location' displayed in the upper right corner of the screen says 1 of 161, 2 of 161 etc. My book is only 40 pages. Is there something in my uploaded file that is causing this? As I page through, all looks good with no blank pages, and the book terminates on the expected page with no blank pages following. I uploaded my file as ,KPF. and the save was reported as successful. (As an aside, the upload result said no spelling errors, which can't be correct because of liberties I took with the text of the book).
Donna St Felix

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Re: Does location as reported on the on-line previewer relate to num of pages?
Posted: Feb 4, 2018 2:26 PM   in response to: gshacte in response to: gshacte
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gshacte wrote:
I am close to satisfied with the appearance of my book (verse) on the on-line previewer. As I page through it on the previewer, the 'Location' displayed in the upper right corner of the screen says 1 of 161, 2 of 161 etc. My book is only 40 pages. Is there something in my uploaded file that is causing this? As I page through, all looks good with no blank pages, and the book terminates on the expected page with no blank pages following. I uploaded my file as ,KPF. and the save was reported as successful. (As an aside, the upload result said no spelling errors, which can't be correct because of liberties I took with the text of the book).

Ignore those numbers. It is 'location of pages' on the system.
C. Gold

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Posted: Feb 4, 2018 4:41 PM   in response to: gshacte in response to: gshacte
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People are used to having page numbers in their books (paper variety), so ereaders simulate that. Those numbers come from the device, not your manuscript. Also, your document might be 40 Word pages long, but it is 161 pages when read on your device's screen size. That means it takes 161 right swipes to get to the end. That number will change depending on device display size, font, and font size.
Ralph E Vaughan

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Posted: Feb 4, 2018 5:17 PM   in response to: C. Gold in response to: C. Gold
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C. Gold wrote:
People are used to having page numbers in their books (paper variety), so ereaders simulate that. Those numbers come from the device, not your manuscript. Also, your document might be 40 Word pages long, but it is 161 pages when read on your device's screen size. That means it takes 161 right swipes to get to the end. That number will change depending on device display size, font, and font size.

No. There are many locations on each "page." The purpose is to bring the reader back to the same location regardless of typeface or point size. When you swipe from one "page" to another, you'll pass through any number of locations depending on customer display choices. It's not a one-to-one correlation between locations and pages. Recently, KDP has started trying to emulate page numbers, but that's also behind-the-scenes stuff and not tied directly to the location numbers that get you back to where you left off.
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Posted: Feb 5, 2018 12:48 AM   in response to: Ralph E Vaughan in response to: Ralph E Vaughan
 
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There are two numbers associated with the Kindle. For instance, in the current book I'm reading, I'm on Page 34 of 228 * Location 442 of 3028. If I swipe right with my current font size/setting, the page number usually advances by one page, but the Location number increments by several numbers each swipe. You are referring to the Location, I was talking about the Page number.
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Posted: Feb 5, 2018 6:40 AM   in response to: C. Gold in response to: C. Gold
 
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C. Gold wrote:
There are two numbers associated with the Kindle. For instance, in the current book I'm reading, I'm on Page 34 of 228 * Location 442 of 3028. If I swipe right with my current font size/setting, the page number usually advances by one page, but the Location number increments by several numbers each swipe. You are referring to the Location, I was talking about the Page number.

Thanks for the correction and info. I looked at some of the books I downloaded recently, but they only show location numbers, both in reading and page-flip modes. I may be missing something, but that's okay...not the first time.
John R. Howell

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Posted: Feb 5, 2018 7:03 AM   in response to: gshacte in response to: gshacte
 
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Locations provide an approximate reading position within the book. Technically each location corresponds to 150 characters (including hidden HTML markup) of the book in the original MOBI format .It is carried forward into the newer KF8 and KFX formats usings internal tables within the book that translate positions in each of those formats to the equivalent position in legacy MOBI format..
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Posted: Feb 5, 2018 8:36 AM   in response to: Ralph E Vaughan in response to: Ralph E Vaughan
 
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Ralph E Vaughan wrote:
C. Gold wrote:
There are two numbers associated with the Kindle. For instance, in the current book I'm reading, I'm on Page 34 of 228 * Location 442 of 3028. If I swipe right with my current font size/setting, the page number usually advances by one page, but the Location number increments by several numbers each swipe. You are referring to the Location, I was talking about the Page number.

Thanks for the correction and info. I looked at some of the books I downloaded recently, but they only show location numbers, both in reading and page-flip modes. I may be missing something, but that's okay...not the first time.

C. Gold is referring to the so-called "Real Page Numbers", which are a recent development. They show up if you have a paperback published before the e-book goes live, but not always. Like most other things with KDP, chaos theory seems to play a big part.
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