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joy ciarcia levy

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illustrations not 300 DPI, can I still include them?
Posted: Feb 8, 2018 9:36 AM
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My illustrations are not 300 DPI and they are being blocked from the book preview. Can I still include them anyway and take the risk that they may not be the highest quality?
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Posted: Feb 8, 2018 9:44 AM   in response to: joy ciarcia levy in response to: joy ciarcia levy
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joy ciarcia levy wrote:
My illustrations are not 300 DPI and they are being blocked from the book preview. Can I still include them anyway and take the risk that they may not be the highest quality?

I wouldn't use them in a printed book at all. What resolution are they?
joy ciarcia levy

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Posted: Feb 8, 2018 9:49 AM   in response to: joy ciarcia levy in response to: joy ciarcia levy
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They are just B&W line drawings. That's why I think they'll be ok. Not sure what DPI they are now. They are very simple lines.

Edited by: joy ciarcia levy on Feb 8, 2018 9:54 AM
writerbn

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Posted: Feb 8, 2018 11:51 AM   in response to: joy ciarcia levy in response to: joy ciarcia levy
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Assuming you're talking about a paperback, line drawings should be inserted as vector files (EPS or AI), not bitmap (TIFF, JPG, etc.). Then output a press-quality PDF.
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Posted: Feb 8, 2018 1:08 PM   in response to: joy ciarcia levy in response to: joy ciarcia levy
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Sure. I've often been flagged by CreateSpace, though typically the dpi is in the 200-290 range. I've pushed through, and the results have been perfectly satisfactory. (I'm not sure the same would be true of the cover.)

But be sure you get a physical proof copy before you sign off on it!

(Don't trust KDP to publish a print edition. Don't trust CreateSpace to publish an ebook. Each does one thing well and the other thing poorly.)

Good luck! -- NJ

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Joseph M Erhardt

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Posted: Feb 8, 2018 1:40 PM   in response to: Notjohn in response to: Notjohn
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Notjohn wrote:
Sure. I've often been flagged by CreateSpace, though typically the dpi is in the 200-290 range. I've pushed through, and the results have been perfectly satisfactory. (I'm not sure the same would be true of the cover.)

But be sure you get a physical proof copy before you sign off on it!

(Don't trust KDP to publish a print edition. Don't trust CreateSpace to publish an ebook. Each does one thing well and the other thing poorly.)

Good luck! -- NJ

Notjohn's Guide to E-Book & Print Formatting (2018 edition)

The blog: https://notjohnkdp.blogspot.com


I've uploaded a 300 dpi cover image and CreateSpace has complained that it was only 283 (or some-such weird figure). I submitted it anyway, and it passed review. The actual physical book looks just fine.

To the O.P.: For an image , you can fudge-up the DPI this way. However, for a line drawing that is a graph, e.g., the following would not result in a happy ending. Nevertheless:

1. You can use an image-modification program to double the x and y sizes (quadrupling the image size).
2. Then, use the program's Gaussian Blur, set a minimal blur, say 1 or 2.
3. Then, resize to the original x and y sizes.
4. Then, save as a higher-DPI jpeg, say 400 or so DPI. (You could also save as a TIF and see if that goes through.)

As I said, if the image is a graph of some kind, this may look ugly. If the image is a line drawing of a figure, or leaves, or some kind of non-ordered object, the result may be okay.
joy ciarcia levy

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Posted: Feb 8, 2018 2:40 PM   in response to: writerbn in response to: writerbn
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The PDF trick worked! Thanks so much!
Amis

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Posted: Feb 8, 2018 4:55 PM   in response to: joy ciarcia levy in response to: joy ciarcia levy
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Get a proof copy before you publish and see if you are happy with the quality.
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Posted: Feb 8, 2018 5:07 PM   in response to: joy ciarcia levy in response to: joy ciarcia levy
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joy ciarcia levy wrote:
They are just B&W line drawings. That's why I think they'll be ok. Not sure what DPI they are now. They are very simple lines.

Edited by: joy ciarcia levy on Feb 8, 2018 9:54 AM


"Just B&W drawings" is not a resolution.
James Duggan

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Posted: Feb 11, 2018 4:01 AM   in response to: sued2 in response to: sued2
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sued2 wrote:
joy ciarcia levy wrote:
They are just B&W line drawings. That's why I think they'll be ok. Not sure what DPI they are now. They are very simple lines.

Edited by: joy ciarcia levy on Feb 8, 2018 9:54 AM

"Just B&W drawings" is not a resolution.


Joy, just for the record, I use many colour images in my various publications, both Ebook and print. I am often warned the dpi is less than 300 (sometimes even less than 200). Initially it bothered me, but I decided to test the results by ordering proof copies. With the odd exception, which was my fault, they are perfectly acceptable. I suggest you suck it and see. You might be pleasantly surprised. I suspect KDP might just be covering their backs to avoid complaints from perfectionists; such as those where image quality is important (photography for example).
I hope this helps.

Jim.
Theresa M. Moore

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Re: illustrations not 300 DPI, can I still include them?
Posted: Feb 12, 2018 11:04 AM   in response to: joy ciarcia levy in response to: joy ciarcia levy
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I don't think it matters much in the grand scheme of things. If you are publishing a Kindle ebook you are limited to the amount of megabytes allowed. If you are publishing a print book the standard resolution is 300 dpi. I have gotten away with less if the original image was sized at 300 dpi. But it is a good rule of thumb to resize the illustrations and then insert them where they're supposed to go.

I have a full color book which has both color and b&w images, and I was still forced to drop them from the ebook because they boosted the size of the document to above 5MB. Other ebook stores limit their source documents to 2MB. So you may not be able to market an ebook which is completely illustrated. It's up to you to decide what goes and what stays.
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