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2davidvandyke

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Re: Happily Annoucing Two Great Books! Opinions Wanted!
Posted: Feb 15, 2013 10:30 AM   in response to: JJ in response to: JJ
 
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Great covers, very pro. That's a good start. But they are not great books yet.

Tangled Hearts has formatting problems. The chapter heading is undelineated from the acknowledgements above. It's always wise to look at your own books exactly as the customers do, then you will see things like this. Also, good luck with that big discount of 16 cents, where did that come from?

Skylark Blues also has formatting problems, there is a line between every paragraph. That is a Word default problem and is not the way books should be formatted. Also there are only three asterisks in an asterism, not four. Then at the beginning of chapter two, the first four paragraphs are in a larger font than the rest fo the book. Also for some reason ther are two different iterations of the cover INSIDE the book. I'm not looking any farther.

Bottom line - get someone to professionally format the books. Right now this will kill your sales.

Also, your price is rather high for a debut with no reviews.
JJ

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Posted: Feb 15, 2013 10:32 AM   in response to: JJ in response to: JJ
 
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Come on people! You're quick and ready to tear down a bad book, but you have nothing to say about good books?????
2davidvandyke

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Posted: Feb 15, 2013 10:33 AM   in response to: JJ in response to: JJ
 
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Ahhhh....how sad. Another new author that wants only the sugar, not the salt. Yes, "come on people," join in.

You asked for opinions. You just got the first one from a professional technical writer, freelance editor, and author. Now I am not the final authority, but go ahead - tell me how my observations are in any way wrong?

And by the way, since you just bared your throat for me: the word is "Announcing."
JJ

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Posted: Feb 15, 2013 10:39 AM   in response to: 2davidvandyke in response to: 2davidvandyke
 
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david, oh please.... what makes you an expert? If you would notice, both have been professionally edited. The formatting came out the way it did and the only thing wrong is where the one paragraph font is too large. That will be fixed. I am more interested in the story and writing. Not that the formatting needs to be moved over slightly. Have you nothing to say about whats important? The story....the writing????
1001nightspress

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Posted: Feb 15, 2013 10:49 AM   in response to: JJ in response to: JJ
 
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This isn't really the place to get in-depth critiques about writing--that's a task that takes a considerable amount of time. You might want to search out critique groups in your genre, or something. But even with a critique group focused on content, you don't get to tell people what to react to, or how to react. Let someone else say whether your book is 'great'--don't tell them that in advance.
2davidvandyke

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Posted: Feb 15, 2013 10:51 AM   in response to: JJ in response to: JJ
 
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what makes you an expert?

Thirty years of technical writing experience.

Take a look and your opinions are welcome!

You did not ask for specific critique on the story and writing - you asked for opinions on the books. I did not criticise the editing - the books seem well edited. From the samples, the stories seem engaging. Is that what you are fishing for? Apparently only opinions you like are actually welcome.

The formatting came out the way it did and the only thing wrong is where the one paragraph font is too large.

No, the problems I identified are also what's wrong. To recap:

Two copies of the cover, of different sizes, inside one of the books.

In one book, blank lines between paragraphs.

In the other book, you have NO CHAPTER HEADING for chapter one.

...but it's becoming quite clear that the swine is trampling the pearls. Good luck with all your endeavors. - Oh, and the only statement "????" makes is that you need a style manual.
JJ

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Posted: Feb 15, 2013 10:54 AM   in response to: 1001nightspress in response to: 1001nightspress
 
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1001, This is a general forum, is it not???? Many people here offer opinions and thoughts about content. Its not too difficult to read sample pages and enjoy the writing. If there are any Vets on here, Skylark Blues should be of special interest and well worth the money and time to read.
Carrie Chester

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Posted: Feb 15, 2013 11:00 AM   in response to: JJ in response to: JJ
 
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JJ,

I hate to say it, but you clearly didn't want our opinions because you have said yourself you think your books are "great". What you seem to want is for everyone to crawl over themselves to praise you. They might very well be great books, but being told what my opinion is supposed to be on them makes me far from inclined to check them out.

If you genuinely want opinions, it's not a good idea to start by telling us WHICH opinions you want. If, on the other hand, you truly believe your books are "great", then what do you need our affirmation for?

Edited by: Carrie Chester on Feb 15, 2013 11:10 AM
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Posted: Feb 15, 2013 11:01 AM   in response to: 2davidvandyke in response to: 2davidvandyke
 
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david.... " the editing - the books seem well edited. From the samples, the stories seem engaging."

Thank you david! Yes the books are very engaging and well written. Both stories are worth reading and will be one of the better books you will read. That I promise you!
Kara Haskins

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Re: Happily Annoucing Two Great Books! Opinions Wanted!
Posted: Feb 15, 2013 11:06 AM   in response to: JJ in response to: JJ
 
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In the future, don't come on here asking for opinions if you don't want to hear them.

I didn't even look at the books, but what you've been told is they look like they could be 'good' but there's formatting issues. 'Good' doesn't trump formatting issues. You may well be losing sales when possible readers do the 'look inside' and see formatting errors, make thems wonder what other errors theymight find. Do yourself a favor and clean that up.

"One of the better books you'll read?" I doubt it, if you can't even take honest advice formatting needs cleaning up.
Athena

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Re: Happily Annoucing Two Great Books! Opinions Wanted!
Posted: Feb 15, 2013 11:10 AM   in response to: JJ in response to: JJ
 
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You are in the wrong forum to be asking for opinions on your book...unless you want to get tarred and feathered, that is.

To be fair, you DID ask for OPINIONS, perhaps if you were more specific in your plea, you would have received some more favourable responses....i.e. "Please tell me what you like about my book, I'm new, be nice."

The covers look brilliant, can not fault.

And you say you had it professionally edited - good. So the question is, why go into so much effort to make the cover and content professional and ignore the -frankly, basic - formatting issues?

I'm sorry, but it's not readable yet. You will be putting off a lot of potential readers by the fact that the writing is all over the place, the font size is not consistant and as mentioned by a previous poster - no chapter heading...all easily fixed...

Fix the issues. Upload again and you will likely see an increase in sales.
JJ

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Posted: Feb 15, 2013 11:14 AM   in response to: Kara Haskins in response to: Kara Haskins
 
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Carrie and Kara, I do want honest opinions about the WRITING and the STORY! The formatting is tech, and can be fixed....it doesn't matter that much, and not what I am looking for. Kara, why don't you take the time to read the book before you decide its not well written? I challange you, and doubt you would have the same opinion once you've read it. I'm also interested in hearing from the Vets on this forum, if there are any. The Air Force Basic Traning story will have a millitary following.
1001nightspress

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Posted: Feb 15, 2013 11:14 AM   in response to: JJ in response to: JJ
 
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It's a general forum for asking questions about the publishing process and KDP in particular. It's not a critique group for manuscripts. But I get that you don't want critiques anyway, so if I say that your romance begins with an info dump, and doesn't sound like the voice of a woman, I rather suspect you'll go ballistic anyway and not listen.

So.

Good luck and many sales to you, and all that.
Desmond Lawson

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Re: Happily Annoucing Two Great Books! Opinions Wanted!
Posted: Feb 15, 2013 11:18 AM   in response to: JJ in response to: JJ
 
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J J- I read few pages of your "great book." The save is you stink. Your writing is very immature, and loopy. Fire the editor for recommending you to publish your books. How the heck you made each paragraph into a chapter is beyond me. Son, take my advice and rewrite both books from ground up.
Kara Haskins

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Re: Happily Annoucing Two Great Books! Opinions Wanted!
Posted: Feb 15, 2013 11:22 AM   in response to: JJ in response to: JJ
 
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Because I haven't any interest in reading a book that's wonky in it's presentation. Too many excellent works out there with authors that bothered to tke the time to make sure it's right. If I were you I'd be hitting google about now to figure out if indeed it's wrong and how to fix it and I would unpublish or not leave my computer until it was fixed, even if I were skeptical. As for the writing, find some critique groups.

This is not the place to try to drive sales by asking for 'opinions' on the writing. Your 'question' of 'how's my writing' feels like an attmept to make some sales under the guise of 'help me'. Help was offered on an important part that's dragging down possible sales, yet you brush it off.

I know you are very new here, I am still new too. I have learned in my few months on here there are some posters that should make your ears prick up when they speak. 2davidvandyke is one of them- he's knowledgeable and a straight shooter, he has offered some good critique of what's good, what's bad. Please don't underestimate the importance of proper formatting.

If your book is indeed fantastic in its content, it is such a shame to lose sales over an issue as simple as formatting. It DOES matter, to the vast majority of readers.

Edit- I did just take a look, lovely covers indeed. Others are correct in the issues they mentioned above, I want to ad I think you have over-priced each. As you are not a 'known' name I would expect works as these to be $2.99 or $3.99. People generally won't fork over almost twice that for an 'unknown' without a good ranking or ratings to back it up, neither of which you have as of now.

Edited by: Kara Haskins on Feb 15, 2013 11:26 AM
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