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Gary Seilheimer

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Re: What are current book editing costs? I'm just curious.
Posted: Jul 2, 2013 6:18 AM   in response to: jamesfc in response to: jamesfc
 
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A blog I visit occasionally had some good ideas about finding editing services and some of the risks involved.
http://darkdawncreations.blogspot.com/
jamesfc

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Posted: Jul 2, 2013 1:37 PM   in response to: Gary Seilheimer in response to: Gary Seilheimer
 
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This site appears to specialize in covers........ I didn't see any reference to editing. They have a great price on covers at $15 each though so I have bookmarked it.
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Posted: Jul 2, 2013 2:36 PM   in response to: jamesfc in response to: jamesfc
 
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Just the first part about the warnings on hiring editors and such on line. Not a specific list of editors.
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Posted: Jul 4, 2013 1:04 PM   in response to: Gary Seilheimer in response to: Gary Seilheimer
 
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Some of the professional editing services are charging a massive amount of money. One I looked at want close to $4000 for a fully and interactively edited book. Basically they will
help you rewrite it if it isn't too good. And they claim to guarantee no mistakes in the final product. This would be a dangerous guarantee to make as even some of the top books on
the market today contain an occasional mistake. I read a new Tom Clancy book recently that had a glaring typo, but his editing team hadn't picked it up. Editing is a time consuming boring process as each line has to be read slowly while hunched over a computer ready to correct mistakes. Even after all this a mistake can creep in. Usually not a major one but a minor one which still seriously annoys the editor when they find out about it. Just the name of the game I guess.
Rupert de Cesaris

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Re: What are current book editing costs? I'm just curious.
Posted: Jul 5, 2013 12:46 AM   in response to: jamesfc in response to: jamesfc
 
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I have now found TWO typos in my book - in spite of several checks. It happens, but it's annoying. I haven't read Clancy for years now as I find him just a little too jingoistic for my liking but I did find a typo in a Clive Cussler so I guess we're not alone in this!

It's a tough one: at our level, how long would it take to recoup a $4,000 outlay? In my case, never it would seem!
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Posted: Jul 5, 2013 3:49 AM   in response to: Rupert de Cesaris in response to: Rupert de Cesaris
 
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Yes this happens. Occasionally I notice a typo in one of my books..... or a reader points it out to me....... so I correct it and re-publish. Typos in my own work
seriously annoy me. This is why when editing somebody else's book it's highly likely that a typo will be inadvertently left in. Most professionally published books undergo
at least a double editing process. But of course this costs twice as much in man-hours. I guess the best I can claim in my own editing service is about a 99% accuracy.
Readers will tolerate a couple of glitches in a book but not a couple of glitches every page.
Kate Rauner

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Posted: Jul 5, 2013 5:09 AM   in response to: jamesfc in response to: jamesfc
 
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I've traded emails with ThePoetsBillow.org. That site is aimed at poetry - which they edit starting at $10 a page. But they offered the ball-park of $3000 to $6000 for a novel.
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Re: What are current book editing costs? I'm just curious.
Posted: Jul 5, 2013 7:01 AM   in response to: jamesfc in response to: jamesfc
 
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a lot of people need to have their books edited. Some of them are absolutely trash - more like ore rather than gold. editing is necessary to bring out the gold inside. If your book is longer than the average in your genre, most likely it needs editing. I've seen books with thousands more words than necessary - words that do nothing to move the story forward. So the hard truth is, yes many authors here need someone to do some harsh editing!

That doesn't mean you should spend money on it. Join a critique group and use it to your advantage - let professional authors tell you what needs to be fixed. you'll need hard skin. Let me tell you this, many kindle authors are simple not good writers and they need to do some serious learning.
jamesfc

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Posted: Jul 5, 2013 1:47 PM   in response to: Radeya Ent in response to: Radeya Ent
 
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You've hit the nail on the head here. Being retired now (and being a speed reader) I pull down a ton of interesting looking freebies. Usually go through 1-2 per day.
If I really like a book I will go to paid sales for that author and buy a follow-up. One such author I tracked down from an initial freebie was Russell Blake with his JET and ASSASSIN series. Brilliant stuff. I bought 5-6 of them and did some reviews. What impressed me was that he had no apparent mistakes or glitches. A very large number of the freebies I read have merit and several of them were quite brilliant in concept....... but totally full of mistakes and typos. If a newbie author finds that they have potential they MUST organize editing
to some degree to clean their work up. After all they have gone to a massive amount of trouble to evolve their manuscript and are destroying any chance of success by not editing.
The whole Kindle publication process is free but the promotion and editing can cost money. Critique groups are sometimes useful but not often very thorough and it often takes months to get results back. They will point out obvious mistakes but usually don't get involved in depth. I guess my point here is that successful newbie authors almost always end up spending money eventually to get their books sold. The bottom line is that the self-publishing process is not really free.
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Re: What are current book editing costs? I'm just curious.
Posted: Jul 5, 2013 5:09 PM   in response to: jamesfc in response to: jamesfc
 
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Congratulations on your retirement! I'm arranging to list some resources on my website for authors and don't have an editors lined up, so once you know what your rates will be, have a website and some references, I'd be happy to stick you up there.

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Posted: Jul 5, 2013 5:36 PM   in response to: jesrphoto in response to: jesrphoto
 
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OK Jes..... completed website is at - http://www.mindtech.com.vu/edit.htm

Rates are listed but they sort of depend on the amount of editing required.
Thought I'd help out newbie forum members by keeping rates right down initially.
Later on I'll probably have to double them to make any worthwhile financial return.
James
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Posted: Jul 5, 2013 5:54 PM   in response to: jamesfc in response to: jamesfc
 
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Just a little website advice, James - I would cut it down to the bare minimum, as right now it's kind of a block of text. Check out my general landing page for my custom work, here: http://jesrdesign.com - just the pertinent information. If authors have questions, I answer them and go over the procedure via email generally. It'll be more appealing with a headline, something like "Affordable Editing Services" and then a few subheadings with small structured pieces/lists. IE:

RATES:
Rates start at .... per 1,000 words.

EXPERIENCE:
A short paragraph depicting your professional expertise, 4 to 5 sentences.

Then a heading for your contact information, and perhaps a testimonial section when you get that far. Right now the important information kind of gets lost.
jamesfc

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Posted: Jul 5, 2013 6:39 PM   in response to: jesrphoto in response to: jesrphoto
 
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Thanks Jes, I'll definitely look at that. However I have found over the past 30 years that the more up-front info I give people the better the results I get.
My websites tend to look home grown rather than commercial and for me this seems to work.

We'll see what happens.
James

PS. Your website looks great..... beautiful covers!
charlotte firba...

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Re: What are current book editing costs? I'm just curious.
Posted: Jul 5, 2013 10:34 PM   in response to: jamesfc in response to: jamesfc
 
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That depends on what you want. If it's just and edit, about 3 cents per word. A proofread is cheaper, about 1 cent per word. Contact www.InspirationForWriters.com and get a quote. The CEO, Sandy Tritt, is very sweet and accommodating. They sign a confidentiality agreement. You can also get a free 500 word sample edit that is helpful. Often authors think they only need a proofread when they actually need more.

Hope this helps.
Rupert de Cesaris

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Re: What are current book editing costs? I'm just curious.
Posted: Jul 6, 2013 2:01 AM   in response to: jamesfc in response to: jamesfc
 
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I agree with James here: "There's no such thing in life as a free lunch..." If you want quality, you've got to pay for it, simple. Yes, you can DIY it, but the results usually speak for themselves and can create entirely the wrong impression: people DO judge a book by its cover and the quality of its content. As a writer, I strive to ensure my readers become engrossed and 'lost' in the prose rather than being hauled here and there by glaring errors. They've shelled out for the thing, they deserve their money's worth.
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