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Tyler R. Smith

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Re: What are current book editing costs? I'm just curious.
Posted: Dec 11, 2015 5:47 PM   in response to: jamesfc in response to: jamesfc
 
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James,

I am a newbie writer, hoping to become an author. I have a coming of,age novel that is 110,000 words and it's just about ready for a professional edit. Can you contact me via email with any information regarding your rates and services? I can be reached at tyler.smith10@hotmail.com

Thanks!
jamesfc

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Posted: Dec 11, 2015 7:09 PM   in response to: Tyler R. Smith in response to: Tyler R. Smith
 
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I have just responded to your email address Tyler.
The details can be found at - http://www.mindtech.com.vu/edit.htm

James
Carolyn Vaughan

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Re: What are current book editing costs? I'm just curious.
Posted: Dec 13, 2015 1:58 AM   in response to: uncle1282 in response to: uncle1282
 
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I positively love your cover!!!!!!!!!
jamesfc

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Posted: Dec 13, 2015 9:23 PM   in response to: Carolyn Vaughan in response to: Carolyn Vaughan
 
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Covers are very critical. Take a look at a current thread (page 6 -7 on this forum I believe) called "How I doubled and tripled the sale of my books."
Gives you an idea of what to do to make your covers highly clickable for follow-through sales. Simplicity plus spectacular coloring effect is the main key.
Many readers search the thumbnail pages for books in the genre they're interested in. Problem is these pages (usually containing 20 thumbnail listings) contain only a small thumbnail pic and the book title. No other information. So your thumbnail needs to STAND OUT to attract a click-through. The thread I mentioned above tells you exactly how to do this to double or triple your sales. This is seriously worth looking at because it has made a vast difference in sales for a few authors who have followed the concept.
James
Ned Kelly

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Re: What are current book editing costs? I'm just curious.
Posted: Dec 14, 2015 2:09 AM   in response to: jamesfc in response to: jamesfc
 
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Send some work his way people. He knows voodoo, so he has to be kept busy...otherwise, well, bits might start falling off.

Ned
jamesfc

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Posted: Dec 14, 2015 3:35 PM   in response to: Ned Kelly in response to: Ned Kelly
 
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Hey Ned, had to dump that voodoo stuff. Remember what happened when I tried to teach you the process? You stuffed up so badly you had to spend 2 weeks in hospital. And I spent 2 days explaining to the federal police that voodoo is a myth and it definitely doesn't work. So these days I write books for Amazon and spend my spare time chasing unwelcome small critters out of my bed! Also got back into doing editing work.... mainly for newbies....... and hold their hand right though the process as it's all new and mysterious to them. Give them half price specials too. Just uploaded a website about this....... http://www.mindtech.com.vu/edit.htm
James
Ned Kelly

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Posted: Dec 14, 2015 3:57 PM   in response to: jamesfc in response to: jamesfc
 
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James...how do I turn my voodoo doll off? I can't find the switch and Chucky keeps looking at me from across the room. I think I'll have to go throw him in the ocean...
Jason Peiman

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Re: What are current book editing costs? I'm just curious.
Posted: Dec 15, 2015 5:53 AM   in response to: jamesfc in response to: jamesfc
 
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Not sure how a new author can spend $700 for an edit when they might make $50 in sales. I might as well take $650 and donate it to charity.
It seems like a poor business model. For new writers who don't have $700 to spend, are there cheaper options? I lucked out and have a professional
editor who's been doing this for nearly forty years, but I couldn't afford what she would normally charge.

To alleviate the burden I suggest writers spend a portion of their day (everyday) studying the craft of editing. Learn about grammar and take the time to
be your own editor. You won't find everything, and sometimes you will make mistakes not knowing they are mistakes. But it will be a good step prior to
finding someone to edit.

Hope that little bit helps.
jamesfc

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Re: What are current book editing costs? I'm just curious.
Posted: Dec 16, 2015 1:24 AM   in response to: Jason Peiman in response to: Jason Peiman
 
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Ned, there's a mechanical-electrical mechanism on your doll somewhere which should do this. I think it's called an "Off Switch."

Jason, your comments are absolutely valid. The cost can be ridiculous for a newbie who is wondering whether their book will sell at all. In an effort to help newbies with their first couple of books I tend to charge under $200. I no longer edit under contract for publishing houses. After 35 years of it I can't be bothered with this pressure editing.
I'm getting too old for this stuff!!

I've just updated my editing website - http://www.mindtech.com.vu/edit.htm

James

Edited by: jamesfc on Dec 25, 2015 2:16 PM
jamesfc

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Posted: Dec 19, 2015 7:15 PM   in response to: Jason Peiman in response to: Jason Peiman
 
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Jason, unfortunately learning to edit is not an easy task. It takes years to really understand it all. After I matriculated from school (at age 17) I spent 2 years at night school studying maths and English. Then later on when I started my publishing company and had to edit the author's books I still found myself deficient in English skills so I had to do some extra study. Now some 30+ years later I seem to have got a grasp on it. But I agree it would not hurt for authors to study editing techniques. At least with minimized mistakes it would make the job of their professional editor easier.
James
Jason Peiman

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Posted: Dec 19, 2015 7:41 PM   in response to: jamesfc in response to: jamesfc
 
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I used to consider myself somewhat of a grammar and punctuation expert. Notice I said used to. After my first few books in which I had spent literally
days and weeks editing and working on the flow, the cadence the beats and so on, I thought I had done a spiffy job. I was a pretty good read.

Because my editor is a professional and usually gets paid very well working on some big name authors I put in extra time and polish. Imagine the crushing
my pride and ego took when I got my manuscript back. I didn't cry. No, but I was pretty humbled. I reviewed every change and suggestion thinking to myself
why didn't I think of that? Or brilliant. Why can't I write like this?

Usually after a once over and corrections are made she will then go over the manuscript again and again. For me one pass was good enough. She has said my
writing has improved, but my latest book I got back last week looked like a victim of an axe murder. And I read and study language and grammar and all that jazz.

So I totally agree its a lifetime learning process. I just could never afford her fee. I did bake her cookies though but she didn't want them so I ate them. It's the thought
that though counts right?

Edited by: Jason Peiman on Dec 19, 2015 7:42 PM
See I can't even write this without needing an editor. I'm hopeless. Cookies anyone?
jamesfc

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Re: What are current book editing costs? I'm just curious.
Posted: Dec 30, 2015 2:53 AM   in response to: Jason Peiman in response to: Jason Peiman
 
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Yo Jason, I'll edit your posts for you if you like. For free! How's that for a New Year gift??
James
Tracy

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Re: What are current book editing costs? I'm just curious.
Posted: Jan 22, 2016 5:55 PM   in response to: jamesfc in response to: jamesfc
 
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For folks who really can't afford a proper editor, there are automated editing tools that can help a lot. Here's an article that reviews different options:

http://thewritelife.com/automatic-editing-tools/#.o6qdvea:fH74
jamesfc

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Re: What are current book editing costs? I'm just curious.
Posted: Jan 25, 2016 2:05 AM   in response to: Tracy in response to: Tracy
 
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Great information Tracy. It would help if the authors learnt a few proof-reading basics so that when they present their book to an editor it is at least partially cleaned up. As many editors charge an hourly rate this could save the author a ton of money. I must have edited at least a dozen books last year that were totally devoid of any proofreading. One of them (a 90,000 word book) required over 600 corrections. What should have been an 18 hour edit turned into a 28 hour one.
So I encourage all newbie authors to at least proof-read their own work before submitting it.
James
Lesley Carter

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Re: What are current book editing costs? I'm just curious.
Posted: Feb 1, 2016 7:08 PM   in response to: jamesfc in response to: jamesfc
 
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Be careful finding an editor. They can cost a lot and some are not good.

Check out the new book and new author, 'The Talent' by Carter
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