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Lynda M. LaMonte

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Re: Tax information constantly rejected
Posted: Sep 14, 2014 2:10 PM   in response to: Abc in response to: Abc
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I am so glad to have found this thread. I've spent two weeks battling Amazon over this issue without any resolution. To confuse matters, I spent an hour on the phone with an IRS agent, who was kind enough to walk through the tax questionnaire with me. He said that I am an LLC, and therefore, I should be using my FEIN number (even though) it's an Individual LLC. The only way I can get the system to work is by using my SS number.

My question to the group is this.... I do list my LLC on the W9. Am I still able to report any income from book sales to the business rather than to me personally? The whole point of setting up an LLC is for liability protection and the expensing. Every W9 I've ever filled out has my FEIN number. Not understanding why this isn't the same for Amazon.
Marcela Martine...

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Re: Tax information constantly rejected
Posted: Sep 14, 2014 8:11 PM   in response to: Lynda M. LaMonte in response to: Lynda M. LaMonte
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Lynda M. LaMonte wrote:
To confuse matters, I spent an hour on the phone with an IRS agent, who was kind enough to walk through the tax questionnaire with me. He said that I am an LLC, and therefore, I should be using my FEIN number (even though) it's an Individual LLC. The only way I can get the system to work is by using my SS number.

LLCs are a little confusing because for income tax purposes they do not exist. They are "disregarded", so the number you need to provide is that of the LLC's owner. In this case it is you, so your Tax ID number (SSN) is the one to use.

Lynda M. LaMonte wrote:
My question to the group is this.... I do list my LLC on the W9. Am I still able to report any income from book sales to the business rather than to me personally? The whole point of setting up an LLC is for liability protection and the expensing. Every W9 I've ever filled out has my FEIN number. Not understanding why this isn't the same for Amazon.

The correct way to do it is to use your SSN in all W9s that you provide. This is because you (the individual) are the owner of the LLC which for income tax purposes is disregarded (transparent, does not exist). The W9s that you already provided with the LLC's EIN are incorrect. As an individual, the LLC's income and expenses will be reported in your personal tax return (Schedule C) which is filed with your SSN.

I hope this makes sense... as much as the whole thing can make sense. The LLC is good for legal purposes but for income tax it does not make any difference.

Directly from the W9 instructions if it is more clear: "If you are a single-member LLC that is disregarded as an entity separate from its owner (see Limited Liability Company (LLC) on page 2), enter the owner’s SSN (or EIN, if the owner has one). Do not enter the disregarded entity’s EIN. If the LLC is classified as a corporation or partnership, enter the entity’s EIN."
Benedict Holmes

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Re: Tax information constantly rejected
Posted: Dec 22, 2017 6:21 PM   in response to: Mark Wiesner Jr. in response to: Mark Wiesner Jr.
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Just a quick thank you to everyone on this thread. I was past losing my cool on this issue, and this is the only place where I've seen this actually cleared up and not merely kicked to the side.

It surprises me, since I've always considered Amazon's Customer Service to be top-notch - that does NOT include KDP. The biggest frustration when things like this happen ISN'T that they happened - it's that you can't get any help to clear it up. A fix that would have taken me two seconds to solve took me nearly a day of searching - and phone calls to the IRS - to fix AND it was only fixed because I finally found this thread.
How ridiculous is that?
Donna St Felix

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Re: Tax information constantly rejected
Posted: Dec 22, 2017 8:56 PM   in response to: Benedict Holmes in response to: Benedict Holmes
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Benedict Holmes wrote:
Just a quick thank you to everyone on this thread. I was past losing my cool on this issue, and this is the only place where I've seen this actually cleared up and not merely kicked to the side.

It surprises me, since I've always considered Amazon's Customer Service to be top-notch - that does NOT include KDP. The biggest frustration when things like this happen ISN'T that they happened - it's that you can't get any help to clear it up. A fix that would have taken me two seconds to solve took me nearly a day of searching - and phone calls to the IRS - to fix AND it was only fixed because I finally found this thread.
How ridiculous is that?


This thread is old. Luckily your post was spotted. A new thread is always best concerning old and new.

I assume you were contacting the retail end for customer service. For authors, the way to reach customer service (a different area than retail) is here on the threads, then clicking below on 'Contact Us'.
Notjohn

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Re: Tax information constantly rejected
Posted: Dec 23, 2017 4:16 AM   in response to: Donna St Felix in response to: Donna St Felix
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It's even more confusing/dangerous because 2014 is before the IRS changed its policy on tax identification numbers for what it merrilly calls "non-US persons."

Please, people, ignore information in years-old threads. This is especially true for those dealing with US withholding taxes. I'm glad Mr Holmes got his problem sorted, but this thread should be ignored.

(Don't trust KDP to publish a print edition. Don't trust CreateSpace to publish an ebook. Each does one thing well and the other thing poorly.)

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