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notjohn

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Re: Is Amazon Stealing From You? Why is Amazon Altering Sales & Royalty Rates?
Posted: Oct 29, 2011 1:37 PM   in response to: notjohn in response to: notjohn
 
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**I suspect that either it's a very shabby month or the entire Amazon reporting system has broken**

From a suspicion, this has now ripened into a certainty. For the first time in four years, my sales have gone backward. August was ten percent better than July, but September almost exactly equaled July. And October will come nowhere near.

Sure, I've had one-month drops before. But this is the first time the bicycle has ever gone backwards.

(And don't tell me about Christmas shopping. I didn't see a decline in the fall of 2008, 2009, or 2010. It's certainly true that sales pop in January as the Christmas Kindles get a workout, but in four years I haven't experienced an autumn decline. So this is something new: either a broken report system or a first-ever reversal in the growth of ebooks.)
marns26

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Re: Is Amazon Stealing From You? Why is Amazon Altering Sales & Royalty Rates?
Posted: Oct 31, 2011 5:30 AM   in response to: notjohn in response to: notjohn
 
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Well then, you've been very fortunate and/or a very talented author to only be catching up (er, slowing down) to what I've seen my sales do. Every year I make more money, but the months do tend to cycle. I'll only be down a couple hundred this month from last, but I expect by Christmas I'll be down 500-800 from summer sales and then it'll bounce back up again the day after Christmas.

Everyone's different, depending on your fan base and what you sell, how often you get new content up, your writing skill level, etc...but this is what my experience has been for the last four years.
healthgrl3809

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Posted: Nov 3, 2011 5:00 PM   in response to: gldrummond in response to: gldrummond
 
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A friend purchased my newly uploaded book 4 days ago and the sale has yet to show up. How long does it take to show up?
mcquicker

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Posted: Nov 4, 2011 4:53 AM   in response to: cosmology44 in response to: cosmology44
 
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Authors and publishers should be very careful. Amazon has now established a policy to lend YOUR books without renumeration in order to generate sales for their Kindle. This is exploitation. I am trying to settle our account and will delete all the titles we have with Kindle and transfer them to Smashwords.

Don't be fooled!
gldrummond

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Posted: Nov 4, 2011 9:14 AM   in response to: mcquicker in response to: mcquicker
 
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Actually, our ebooks submitted through the KDP aren't eligible for the library lending.

We have to check to allow the one time only lending of a purchased copy...so I'd say we're still in control of whether our books are lent or not.

But by all means, leave Amazon! That will be a few less books people have to search through. ;p

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Vanessa Reign

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Posted: Oct 1, 2017 2:17 PM   in response to: cosmology44 in response to: cosmology44
 
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Yup. They do lie and steal. I've taken pictures of fluctuations in the prices of my ebooks books whenever I check them on amazon- though I set the price at 7.99 dollars. Sometimes even over the allowed rate of 9.99. Sometimes they would be 6.70 other times 11.20. And when I contacted amazon with the screenshots they tried to lie and claim that it was due to currency conversions though the picture clearly shows its on the us website and the conversions to a different currency didn't correspond when I did the maths anyway. And they maintained this position several times even with clear proof to the contrary. Then they tried to say I changed the price myself though they can clearly see on my account when the last changes were made which were weeks before I even contacted them. I've personally sent the link to my ebook to at least forty people in the last 3 months. People who I know are interested in the topic. And zero sales. I have no doubt in my mind that they're behind this. Corrupt. Involved in censorship and witholding sales whenever it benefits them. They also don't list your title in the appropriate category and when you take a screenshot, they claim they're having technical problems and don't get back to you. See link below about someone who's amazon sales dropped by 95 percent after they criticized them. They've got the lame shadow US government behind them.

https://247news.net/news/publisher-accuses-amazon-stealing-royalties/
Notjohn

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Posted: Oct 2, 2017 3:23 AM   in response to: Vanessa Reign in response to: Vanessa Reign
 
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You're replying to a six-year-old thread which is not a helpful thing, either for you or for your readers.

(Don't trust KDP to publish a print edition. Don't trust CreateSpace to publish an ebook.)

Good luck! -- NJ

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penny davis

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Posted: Oct 13, 2017 1:39 PM   in response to: Notjohn in response to: Notjohn
 
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I'm pulling my books from Amazon Kindle...It's a joke to have them on this site when they basically give our work away for free. I'm going all hardcopy with Barnes and Noble. I'll make sure my work isn't being given away and I'm getting paid for people to read my books. KENP Pages read is a joke too. How do we really know how many of our pages in our books have been read? We don't!!
Joseph M Erhardt

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Posted: Oct 13, 2017 1:45 PM   in response to: penny davis in response to: penny davis
 
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penny davis wrote:
I'm pulling my books from Amazon Kindle...It's a joke to have them on this site when they basically give our work away for free. I'm going all hardcopy with Barnes and Noble. I'll make sure my work isn't being given away and I'm getting paid for people to read my books. KENP Pages read is a joke too. How do we really know how many of our pages in our books have been read? We don't!!

Um, before you place a .32 slug into your metatarsals, I think the only thing you'll want to do is remove your titles from KDP's "Select" program (that's our side of the Kindle Unlimited thing). That way your titles will be only for sale and not part of the subscription-read-pay-for-pages-read program.

Amazon is such a huge part of the market, pulling out from it would likely hurt you. Please re-think this.

Whatever you finally do, best of luck.
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