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Rob Blackwell

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Re: Kindle Scout
Posted: Oct 14, 2014 3:48 AM   in response to: Rob Blackwell in response to: Rob Blackwell
 
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You can find more about Kindle Scout here:

https://kindlescout.amazon.com/submit

This is what readers need to do:

https://kindlescout.amazon.com/about

Good luck to all who participate
Marcy Henshaw

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Re: Kindle Scout
Posted: Oct 14, 2014 8:07 AM   in response to: Rob Blackwell in response to: Rob Blackwell
 
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Ok. Interesting. I had thought this was a contest of sorts. I began looking to see how many books would be selected. It had no deadline...they take submissions 365 days a year. Is this the new KDP? It's pretty clearly a program they plan to keep going with, if I am reading correctly. Submit a book of at least 50k words with a good cover, good editing/formatting and enough nominations and they will publish you, a $1500 advance, and 50% royalties. Obviously they review the book before offering a publishing contract. I'm not seeing the part of PROMOTING? Is the 1500 really an advance (then if published do you not get the first 1500 or royalties?)

I had been pretty against it after KDP messed up my most recent release...but am considering it again.
angelakulig

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Re: Kindle Scout
Posted: Oct 14, 2014 8:13 AM   in response to: Marcy Henshaw in response to: Marcy Henshaw
 
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Marcy, you must be selectively blocking it out as it's listed a ton of times lol

How It Works
Kindle Scout is reader-powered publishing for new, never-before-published books. It’s a place where readers help decide if a book receives a publishing contract. Selected books will be published by Kindle Press and receive 5-year renewable terms, a $1,500 advance, 50% eBook royalty rate, easy rights reversions and featured Amazon marketing.

Edited by: angelakulig on Oct 14, 2014 8:13 AM
Mr Robert D Row...

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Re: Kindle Scout
Posted: Oct 14, 2014 8:25 AM   in response to: Rob Blackwell in response to: Rob Blackwell
 
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Looks interesting until you consider the 30 day reading window. If there are a lot of submissions :-) within a 30 day reading period how are the readers going to select your book to look at. They could well be swamped. Also, the advance isn't that good for what they are offering. It's all drifting towards a more traditional publishing model and there are better deals out there to be had.
Marcy Henshaw

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Re: Kindle Scout
Posted: Oct 14, 2014 8:32 AM   in response to: angelakulig in response to: angelakulig
 
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But WHAT marketing? That's what I want to know. Not just "marketing." How will they market, how often, and for how long?
Marcy Henshaw

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Re: Kindle Scout
Posted: Oct 14, 2014 8:35 AM   in response to: Mr Robert D Row... in response to: Mr Robert D Row...
 
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Yeah but 50% royalties is NOT the norm for traditional publishing. Nor is reader voting. Nor is the ease of backing out of the contract. As I understand it, trad publishers don't offer that sweet of an advance unless you're a S. King...and if I'm correct most trad publishers go thru literary agents.
angelakulig

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Re: Kindle Scout
Posted: Oct 14, 2014 8:38 AM   in response to: Marcy Henshaw in response to: Marcy Henshaw
 
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That is one of those impossible questions to answer Marcy. All books would not benefit from the same marketing strategy--and Amazon knows what works for what kinds of books obviously they are not going to want to lose money in the deal so you can bet they aren't going to slack off.

But hey, the more people who don't like the program the less competition there will be.
Mr Robert D Row...

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Re: Kindle Scout
Posted: Oct 14, 2014 8:44 AM   in response to: angelakulig in response to: angelakulig
 
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Yeah, you'll get no arguement from me about your points. I think the average offer from a trad publisher is around $3000 and the royalties are less that's for sure. I've not read about the 'backing out clause', how's that work? And I'm not sure about the reader voting angle - surely they are some your audience. Time will tell I guess.
Marcy Henshaw

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Re: Kindle Scout
Posted: Oct 14, 2014 8:45 AM   in response to: angelakulig in response to: angelakulig
 
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It's just my personality. I hate the unknown. Being told I cannot open a present...bah.
Marcy Henshaw

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Re: Kindle Scout
Posted: Oct 14, 2014 8:52 AM   in response to: Marcy Henshaw in response to: Marcy Henshaw
 
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Ok. This is a bummer. Per guidelines for content:

(no) excessively graphic or violent material

Dangit. So if I decide to write a book I need to tone it down. Also no racial slurs. That omits my romance WIP (it's not racial slurs used negatively...just a chara cter overhearing them and being disgusted by it). Hmm. I'll need to think on this one (what to write). Violence and gore are my things, so I'm told.
Mr Robert D Row...

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Re: Kindle Scout
Posted: Oct 14, 2014 9:02 AM   in response to: Marcy Henshaw in response to: Marcy Henshaw
 
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Violence and gore - sounds good.

I notice inthe rights package they have this little nugget - '8.6.1 If we pay you royalties on sales that are later returned, refunded or credited, we may offset any previously paid amounts against future payments, or require you to repay them to us. ' They know how to protect themselves.

Still, might be worth a shot.
Rob Blackwell

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Re: Kindle Scout
Posted: Oct 14, 2014 2:05 PM   in response to: dmd13 in response to: dmd13
 
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Has anyone submitted yet?

Does anyone know how much of the manuscript potential readers will see? And whether it's possible for it to be chapter one as opposed to a prologue?
Rosalie Banks

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Re: New KDP Program with guaranteed advance
Posted: Oct 14, 2014 3:40 PM   in response to: dmd13 in response to: dmd13
 
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This smells fishy. Like Smeagol

Rosalie Banks
Author of DAMAGED
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00O92QVHQ
Marcy Henshaw

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Re: New KDP Program with guaranteed advance
Posted: Oct 14, 2014 3:48 PM   in response to: Rosalie Banks in response to: Rosalie Banks
 
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How so?
angelakulig

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Re: Kindle Scout
Posted: Oct 14, 2014 4:36 PM   in response to: Rob Blackwell in response to: Rob Blackwell
 
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The first 3,000 words.
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