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Timo Hofstee

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Re: How much do self published authors make
Posted: Mar 31, 2015 12:37 AM   in response to: CodingPalz in response to: CodingPalz
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For the far majority of authors, the answer is : close to nothing. If you want all stats and figures, have a look at authorearnings.com
CodingPalz

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Re: How much do self published authors make
Posted: Mar 31, 2015 4:03 AM   in response to: sloppydog in response to: sloppydog
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Agree that the book ranking moves up by thousands for a purchase.
My book sold 1 copy in India. It now ranks 500 in overall Amazon.in rank.
In the US market I think the number of book sale grows exponentially as the rank gets better than 1000.
Jonathan B

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Re: How much do self published authors make
Posted: Mar 31, 2015 8:40 PM   in response to: CodingPalz in response to: CodingPalz
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One thing to note is that writing is not a salary. It varies tremendously. Last year, I made more than enough money to live on (more than with my day-job). The thing is, that money is not guaranteed for this year. January was fine, but it has dipped since then, and unless I finish my next book soon, April of this year might give my low month of last year a run for it's money (last year's low month, coincidently April, was 10% of my high month, September).

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Edited by: Jonathan B on Mar 31, 2015 10:23 PM
Jonathan B

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Re: How much do self published authors make
Posted: Mar 31, 2015 8:45 PM   in response to: CodingPalz in response to: CodingPalz
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Duplicate post.

Edited by: Jonathan B on Mar 31, 2015 9:53 PM
Larry Hires

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Re: How much do self published authors make
Posted: Mar 31, 2015 9:06 PM   in response to: CodingPalz in response to: CodingPalz
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"Agree with the fact that people might get negative returns.

What's funny is how many people are making money claiming to promote books.
Review services, email promotion , free book lists and advertising.
This stuff costs 10's to hundreds of dollars." - CodingPalz

Almost no one mentions editors - there are many different kinds with different skill levels - or proof readers or critiquers. They cost money as well and it isn't $10 per hour. When an editor is mentioned, it usually sounds like a single engagement between writer and editor. Sometimes, depending on the skill levels of both writer and editor, an editor may go through an entire manuscript three, four, or five times, once per draft. Regardless of what most people want to believe, the best editors also cost the most money. Three times through a 100,000 word manuscript can easily run $20,000.

Having written that, I know someone will claim they spent $40 on a book cover, self-edited their book and made a zillion dollars on it. Good for them.
Jonathan B

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Re: How much do self published authors make
Posted: Mar 31, 2015 10:17 PM   in response to: Larry Hires in response to: Larry Hires
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Larry Hires wrote:
"Agree with the fact that people might get negative returns.

What's funny is how many people are making money claiming to promote books.
Review services, email promotion , free book lists and advertising.
This stuff costs 10's to hundreds of dollars." - CodingPalz

Almost no one mentions editors - there are many different kinds with different skill levels - or proof readers or critiquers. They cost money as well and it isn't $10 per hour. When an editor is mentioned, it usually sounds like a single engagement between writer and editor. Sometimes, depending on the skill levels of both writer and editor, an editor may go through an entire manuscript three, four, or five times, once per draft. Regardless of what most people want to believe, the best editors also cost the most money. Three times through a 100,000 word manuscript can easily run $20,000.

Having written that, I know someone will claim they spent $40 on a book cover, self-edited their book and made a zillion dollars on it. Good for them.


I paid a very well-known, established editor $1200 for a 60,000 word book. The thing is, while quite good, I have used a couple of editors I have found here in the forum $200-300, and those editors have been just as effective, in my humble opinion.
aerki

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Re: How much do self published authors make
Posted: Apr 1, 2015 5:02 AM   in response to: CodingPalz in response to: CodingPalz
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Don't see why people are reluctant to give their own numbers. I've been self pubbing through KDP for 3 years now, and this past year I made $41,000. For me it's a full time job and I put out a 30,000 word novella every 2 weeks (which is far more writing than most people do, I know) but it works for me. I have 74 episodes out of a planned 100 out now, and I truly believe having not one, but TWO books on the newly released 30 day lists has helped attract a trickle of new readers that has slowly built into a reader base. In a week I make the transition into the traditionally published ranks via Harper Collins, so my days as a full indie are over. I'm curious to see how much that exposure drives my KDP sales up, but I can attest that KDP does work if you can find the right mix of genre, publishing rate, and writing skill. You just gotta be patient and I would highly recommend writing an old style SERIAL, perhaps in addition to any novels you have, just to hit those newly released lists. DO NOT chop up your novel and put it out in pieces, that IS NOT a serial. Serial writing is different, with the comparison being a TV show to a Movie. You gotta go about it differently, but if you want to attract attention in the sea of books flooding in, the newly released lists are the way to go IMO, so get something out there regularly...and make it good. That's the key above all else. Give the readers what they want to read so they will come back for more once they find you.
It's that 'finding' part that drives so many people, including me, nuts.
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Re: How much do self published authors make
Posted: Apr 1, 2015 5:31 AM   in response to: Jonathan B in response to: Jonathan B
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Jonathan B wrote:
The thing is, that money is not guaranteed for this year.
The beginning of the month is always scary. The reports refresh, and until you see consistent sales in the new month, it can be an anxious period.
Joe

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Re: How much do self published authors make
Posted: Jan 20, 2018 11:54 PM   in response to: sloppydog in response to: sloppydog
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Good info, thanks!
Traveler321

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Re: How much do self published authors make
Posted: Jan 21, 2018 2:29 AM   in response to: CodingPalz in response to: CodingPalz
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I can vouch for those that have lost money doing this, like i have. But optimism is eternal, so I press on.
writerbn

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Re: How much do self published authors make
Posted: Jan 21, 2018 4:42 AM   in response to: Traveler321 in response to: Traveler321
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😱😱😱😱 ZOMBIE THREAD ALERT! 😱😱😱😱

Not that it matters, probably...
Gary O'Riley

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Re: How much do self published authors make
Posted: Jan 21, 2018 4:49 AM   in response to: writerbn in response to: writerbn
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writerbn wrote:
😱😱😱😱 ZOMBIE THREAD ALERT! 😱😱😱😱

Not that it matters, probably...


Folk on here are always telling newbies to use the search function for answers. I'm guessing Joe has done just that. And being a polite sort of chap, he thanked a poster, hence a 2015 thread gets bumped all the way into 2018!
aerki

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Re: How much do self published authors make
Posted: Jan 21, 2018 10:29 AM   in response to: CodingPalz in response to: CodingPalz
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My income has gone up dramatically the past year as I learned to use Amazon's advertising. I have 46 books out in my Star Force universe (25 are novella box sets) and in December I made $23,000. January is looking like it'll be about the same. So there is money to be made in indie publishing, but there is a HUGE learning curve involved.
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