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lsburton337

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Createspace - is it worthwhile?
Posted: Jan 19, 2012 9:29 PM
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I've been considering publishing my book, which is already on amazon and smashwords, to createspace as well.

Now, I'm not really looking to become a successful indie artist. I know it's not the way of many here, or most, but I'm still pursuing traditional publishing. What I have published to amazon is an older novel of mine and a couple novelettes.

Both amazing, by the way. Just sayin'.

So I'm not going to order a bunch of copies of my book and try to sell them to my local bookstore, or to my relatives. And I don't do much advertising, generally relying on word of mouth to relate how awesome my stories are.

With that in mind, do you think it would be worth my time to upload my novel, [i]A String of Momentary Silences[/i] to Createspace?

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chapterwon

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Re: Createspace - is it worthwhile?
Posted: Jan 19, 2012 9:37 PM   in response to: lsburton337 in response to: lsburton337
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HI LS,

I'm putting my Createspace book together right now, just finished the cover, so my answer would be yes.

And just yesterday they did away with their Pro Plan. That means higher royalties and less investment (I may be wrong about that, but we'll see, as I'm still getting a feel for it).

CW
davidteves

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Re: Createspace - is it worthwhile?
Posted: Jan 19, 2012 10:02 PM   in response to: lsburton337 in response to: lsburton337
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I'm preparing two books for publication on CreateSpace. So far the experience has been great. The proofs have arrived in less than a week, and they look great. I look forward to publishing the first book, "A Matter of Time' in a week or so.

David Teves

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chapterwon

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Posted: Jan 19, 2012 10:06 PM   in response to: davidteves in response to: davidteves
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Hi David,

Thanks for sharing. How much money did you spend on your proofs, and what other expenses, if any, are you anticipating.

Thanks,

CW
lotontech-pdf-e...

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Re: Createspace - is it worthwhile?
Posted: Jan 19, 2012 11:48 PM   in response to: lsburton337 in response to: lsburton337
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CreateSpace is great for getting books onto Amazon.com, but a little more hit-and-miss for getting them onto Amazon.co.uk (for example).

Tony Loton, author of "Book Publishing DIY" (Second Edition)
http://publishingdiy.blogspot.com/p/book.html
lsburton337

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Posted: Jan 20, 2012 10:35 AM   in response to: lotontech-pdf-e... in response to: lotontech-pdf-e...
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Okay, so the KDP and the Createspace books share the same page, and someone can choose to order it digitally or hard copy?

Do they also share the same account in terms of payment? I already have one account from which I need to build $100.00 before I can collect. I'm not sure I need another.


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davidteves

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Posted: Jan 20, 2012 11:01 AM   in response to: lsburton337 in response to: lsburton337
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The proof for "A Matter of Time" was about $10 with shipping. It's a long book, 150,000 words, and the longer the book the higher the price. So far that's all it has cost. You pay as you go. As someone who could never have afforded your typical "vanity press" this has been a gift from Heaven. I've already lined up one book store to sell it.

I suspect that the money is with Kindle, but you need a hardcopy to show people. You can't have a book signing with Kindle. So overall, I'm very excited. I'm just finishing up going over the proof and should have it up within a couple of weeks.

One thing: if you want to keep the price down, you'd better be up to formatting it yourself. What you put on paper is what it will look like warts and all. Choose the 6"x9 format. 11 pts.

Good Luck,

David Teves
jenniferdiaries

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Re: Createspace - is it worthwhile?
Posted: Jan 20, 2012 11:11 AM   in response to: lsburton337 in response to: lsburton337
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There is no downside to it. It's basically free to make the book. You receive your royalties from Createspace, not your KDP account. I can't remember the threshold to get paid but I think it's under $100.

Go for it!
lee3731

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Posted: Jan 20, 2012 11:59 AM   in response to: jenniferdiaries in response to: jenniferdiaries
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I have just started the CreateSpace publishing method. IUniverse is a lot more expensive, but doing it myself will be a little more difficult since I don't know what I'm doing! My "editors" are reading the manuscript now and then I'll download it. I have an artist working on a cover. Hopefully, it will all come together soon. I am excited about trying CreateSpace and will post again when "A Good Catch" is on the market.
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kotch5

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Re: Createspace - is it worthwhile?
Posted: Mar 8, 2012 2:13 AM   in response to: lotontech-pdf-e... in response to: lotontech-pdf-e...
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CreateSpace is great for getting books onto
Amazon.com, but a little more hit-and-miss for
getting them onto Amazon.co.uk (for example).

Tony Loton, author of "Book Publishing DIY" (Second
Edition)
http://publishingdiy.blogspot.com/p/book.html


What are the issues getting onto Amazon.co.uk?

Amazon are notorious for misleading listings for PoD books describing them as difficult to source, out of stock, etc., which just discourages sales. If they don't list Createspace books properly it's not going to help.
sloppydog

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Re: Createspace - is it worthwhile?
Posted: Mar 8, 2012 2:29 AM   in response to: lsburton337 in response to: lsburton337
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I am currently using createspace for one of my books. The only downside so far is the problems I've been having with the formatting which is completely my fault and nothing to do with Createspace. I think I've finally managed to get it right and I'm waiting for my third proof to arrive. I think it's slightly more difficult for UK authors as the cost of postage is a lot higher and the waiting time for delivery is a lot longer so the clue to success is to get it right the first time. The first stupid mistake I made was to have the actually story start on an even page instead of an odd page. This didn't matter for kindle but looked very amatuerish for a print book. However, once I've managed to get it right, I'll use the same template for all the others. The fact that the author only has to pay for the proof and the postage is wonderful so my advice is to go for it.
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Posted: Mar 8, 2012 3:40 AM   in response to: lsburton337 in response to: lsburton337
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I just finished working with Createspace on my paperback. My feeling was what did I have to lose? Make sure your book has been proofed and proofed and ready to go. I have a professional editor and I went through 3 proofs before I caught all my errors....I think....(-: At any rate the result was they did a beautiful job and I am thrilled with the book. The price is high for retail, but what can you do? My money is in Kindle, but I am hoping the paperback sales will pick up.
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Re: Createspace - is it worthwhile?
Posted: Mar 8, 2012 7:16 AM   in response to: kotch5 in response to: kotch5
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Amazon are notorious for misleading listings for PoD books describing them as difficult to source, out of stock, etc., which just discourages sales. If they don't list Createspace books properly it's not going to help. <<<<

Well, first of all, you will make U.S. sales. The U.S. customers won't care that the author happens to be located in the U.K.

If you do want to sell print books in the U.K., there very well could be better options. But if you pay the extra $25 for expanded distribution, then the book will be listed on amazon.co.uk. But as you note, it will not be available for purchase from Amazon.

But with expanded distribution, it will be available for purchase from third-party sellers. At least a few of them will pick it up within a few weeks. Most or all of those sellers will be in the U.S. Some will offer international shipping, but the book will be horrendously expensive.

But you can become a third-party seller yourself. Simply order a supply of books, and when someone orders the book through Amazon, you can mail it to them. If you order a dozen of your books, the shipping should be more reasonable than it would be for customers ordering an individual copy.

I'm in the U.S., and I'm a third-party seller for my own book. I don't make as much on those sales, but in my case, I price my book one cent less than the cheapest third-party seller. That way, they'll order it from me, and I do make more than if they bought it from the guy selling for one cent more.

In your case, you should be able to sell it at a reasonable price with this mehtod.

Again, there might be other POD publishers in the UK that would work out better. But this would be one way to get UK sales of your POD book, at very little initial cost.
craigcecil

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Re: Createspace - is it worthwhile?
Posted: Mar 8, 2012 7:47 AM   in response to: lsburton337 in response to: lsburton337
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I used CreateSpace for publishing my first book, "Supermen: Building Maximum Muscle for a Lifetime" and was very happy with the entire experience.

Here's some notes:

  • I took and edited all the pictures (about 50) for the book myself.
  • I used several people to edit the book, including my wife and a college student who was well versed in editing documents.
  • I bought and brought my own ISBNs to the CreateSpace process. I bought a ten-pack of ISBNs from Bowker for $250.
  • I used Microsoft Word to write the book, being careful to use Styles for everything. When I was ready, I saved the Word file as PDF (making sure to embed the fonts) and uploaded to CreateSpace.
  • After reviewing the conversion on my CreateSpace account page by page, I ordered a proof copy (about $5 for my 276-page book). I used the proof copy to mark up errors in red, updated the Word file, re-uploaded, re-reviewed and ordered a final proof copy, just to make sure everything was ok.
  • I ordered 100 copies of the book for placement in one Gold's Gym and nine General Nutrition Center (GNC) stores.
  • I receive payments of the paperback version separately from the Kindle version via Amazon.
  • Word of mouth, and good Amazon reviews have kept the paperback sales steady.

You can check out the Look Inside feature to see how I formatted the book:

http://www.amazon.com/Supermen-Building-Maximum-Muscle-Lifetime/dp/0984741410/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1331221525&sr=1-3

Craig
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Re: Createspace - is it worthwhile?
Posted: Mar 8, 2012 7:51 AM   in response to: craigcecil in response to: craigcecil
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Wow, Craig. That's a nice-looking book!
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