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Royston Skipp

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My Books
Posted: Sep 8, 2015 8:13 AM
 
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Five books now on KDP not selling much. Any comments welcome. The site made it quite easy to use, many thanks to them.
camellifolia

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Re: My Books
Posted: Sep 8, 2015 8:26 AM   in response to: Royston Skipp in response to: Royston Skipp
 
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You are at the point most of us are or were at some time. Marketing is a mystery and all I can say is keep trying - Anything you can think of, nothing is a silver bullet. Not very many people throw a book out there and accidently hit a gold mine.
crazywriterlady

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Re: My Books
Posted: Sep 8, 2015 9:22 AM   in response to: Royston Skipp in response to: Royston Skipp
 
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Everybody starts out slow (unless they hit the book sales lotto, and that's rare). If you have that many books and aren't selling at least a couple copies a day, then you need to step back and evaluate what you're doing.

Ask yourself:

Are my covers on par with others in my genre?

Are my blurbs informative, intriguing and clear?

Is the title appropriate?

Is the story of interest to a wide audience? Or have I written a personal story with little of value to most people?

Is the writing up to standard? That is, few to no typos, spelling or grammar issues? Is the plot interesting, and free of plot holes, awkward places, and so on?

Am I in the right categories for my story? Have I gotten the right keywords to not only allow the book to show up in searches, but to get into appropriate subcategories?

Have I done any promotion? Have I utilized all means available to me to get my book in front of the right reader? Or have I irritated potential readers by spamming them everywhere I go?

You need to be honest with yourself. It's hard, but that's the business side of publishing that we all have to deal with.
Royston Skipp

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Re: My Books
Posted: Jan 17, 2017 10:51 AM   in response to: Royston Skipp in response to: Royston Skipp
 
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Thanks for the valuable info
Florrie Person

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Re: My Books
Posted: Jan 17, 2017 10:35 PM   in response to: Royston Skipp in response to: Royston Skipp
 
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Royston Skipp wrote:
Thanks for the valuable info

Do you usually take 18 months to thank someone?
james

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Re: My Books
Posted: Jan 18, 2017 5:43 AM   in response to: Royston Skipp in response to: Royston Skipp
 
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Once again, we have long time forum members giving horrendous advice. Did anyone even bother to look up his books?
Some poetry and shorts. Yep, poetry is easily the worst genre on zon for newbie indies. Unless your name is Edgar Allen Poe, or Woodsworth, or Mara Angelou, why bother.
Also, three of his books is in a series. The first has a ranking of three million. That alone will tell an author that readers are not going to buy that Volume number one because only one copy sold. Then, for reasons only known to the author, Volume two is written, which sells zero copies. But it gets better. Volume 3 is written as a series for number two even though number two up till now sold nothing.
Hmm, could it be that long time forum members encouraged him to keep on writing in the same dead end genres and to keep on spending so much time, effort and money to keep writing the same thing over and over?
Yep, that was the advice then and that is their advice now. Why not simply tell the author the truth, and that is that nobody is going to buy books in these genres, especially poetry.
You have to search zon for what is selling in genres and subsequent niches that are hot for newbie indies.
There is a standard romance genre in his stable that is ranked at almost four million. Don't think I've ever seen a ranking that high. What would that make it, one sale or no sales in its lifetime? There is no attempt to locate a salable niche in the romance genre at all.
You have to write what readers are buying, not what you want to write.
Then we have four kids' book shorts, the second worst genre for newbie indies on zon. You can pay 1.52 for an 8 page or bundle them for 6.50 for a 26 page.
Not making this stuff up. And the advice this author gets is to just to keep on going????
Why not rather advise him to stop writing what readers don't want to buy, and to start writing what readers want to buy?
Puleeeeeese.
I am going to go watch some twighlight zone episodes. I need to get back to reality.
grandmaster

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Re: My Books
Posted: Jan 18, 2017 5:51 AM   in response to: james in response to: james
 
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And the advice this author gets is to just to keep on going????
Why not rather advise him to stop writing what readers don't want to buy, and to start writing what readers want to buy?

I guess you ignored it, but the poster was advised to look at what they were writing and make sure it was something readers would want to buy. Along with other tips, crazywriterlady gave a detailed step-by-step guide on what to do. No one tells people writing bad books to just keep on.

But that doesn't fit your MO, does it? You'd rather pretend no one else is giving good counsel to newbies, and continue on ranting about how no one else here knows anything about writing and selling books except for you.
james

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Re: My Books
Posted: Jan 18, 2017 6:00 AM   in response to: grandmaster in response to: grandmaster
 
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Au contraire grandmaster, nowhere in his advice is he told that his genres won't sell. Don't tell fibs. The first one told him to persist with marketing and the second told him to check his blurbs and covers and look for typos and to try and make sure he had a good product. All standard. Not once did that advisor tell him about the five worst selling genres. Not once. Not once did the advisor suggest he could not sell poetry or kids books. A total fabrication on your part.
And not once did the advisor tell him that romance won't sell if you haven't investigated an offbeat niche away from the mainstream romance genre that best selling household name authors dominate.
I would suggest that if you don't know these things that you stop giving advice.
Royston Skipp

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Re: My Books
Posted: Mar 12, 2017 4:19 AM   in response to: Royston Skipp in response to: Royston Skipp
 
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Thanks every one, Its complicated and I will not go into details. But I quit, for a while at least. I'm going back to playing video games Yeha so ........
grandmaster

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Re: My Books
Posted: Mar 12, 2017 7:55 AM   in response to: james in response to: james
 
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james wrote:
Au contraire grandmaster, nowhere in his advice is he told that his genres won't sell. Don't tell fibs. The first one told him to persist with marketing and the second told him to check his blurbs and covers and look for typos and to try and make sure he had a good product. All standard. Not once did that advisor tell him about the five worst selling genres. Not once. Not once did the advisor suggest he could not sell poetry or kids books. A total fabrication on your part.

My advice to you is to stop calling me a liar. It's bad enough to make the same assumptions you claim everyone else does and gives wrong advice, but to continue to denigrate people on this form who are trying to help the author is going beyond stating your opinion.

And not once did the advisor tell him that romance won't sell if you haven't investigated an offbeat niche away from the mainstream romance genre that best selling household name authors dominate.

What offbeat niche is that?

I would suggest that if you don't know these things that you stop giving advice.

This isn't your forum. You don't get to tell me what I can and can not post. You're the one who keeps telling people to find some "hot" niche, write worse than the authors actually selling in that niche, not to worry about editing, covers or anything else. Yet these hot niches you finally share turn out to be stuff that isn't hot, nor is it likely to be, and many times it's not even a niche, it's something you made up. Agree with others or don't, but watch how you say it.

I frankly don't care if you like my posts, or anyone else's here. I am within my rights as a member to post advice as I see it, which comes from years writing and selling books. I'm not breaking any rules. You are. Be careful with the personal attacks. I've had my fill of them, and any further such will be reported.

Here's something that was said early on in the conversation:

If you have that many books and aren't selling at least a couple copies a day, then you need to step back and evaluate what you're doing.

This is advice that doesn't need to have any knowledge of what the books in question are. I don't have to spend my time looking up the OP's name -- and often there's nothing associated with the name used here -- because it's just a fact that if you aren't getting results, look to your work. There's no vast conspiracy to keep people from selling books. There are no secret steps to follow. If an author can't be bothered to study self-publishing and learn what sells, then all the detailed advice in the world isn't going to help them.
Royston Skipp

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Re: My Books
Posted: Nov 10, 2017 5:52 AM   in response to: Royston Skipp in response to: Royston Skipp
 
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Only two words to say, and the second one is off.
Mrs Julia Evans

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Re: My Books
Posted: Nov 10, 2017 7:22 AM   in response to: Royston Skipp in response to: Royston Skipp
 
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Royston Skipp wrote:
Only two words to say, and the second one is off.

Hello Royston,

Well, it took you 18 months to say thank you, but only 10 months to tell people to * off. That's obviously an improvement in preparation time then, so well done.

Just wondering whether that was a general *off to everyone, or if you had someone specific in mind.

Sorry to ask, but you weren't very clear.

Best wishes. J

Brad the wronger

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Re: My Books
Posted: Nov 10, 2017 8:16 AM   in response to: Royston Skipp in response to: Royston Skipp
 
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You're not doing yourself any favors with your books. The first book on your A-zon page has two typos on the cover. The tenses in the second book shift too frequently. The first,m second, and third book are 4-13 pages long and you're expecting people to pay money for them. Few, if any, people will want to read about your dogs or motorcycle. They might've been the best dogs ever, but the rest of the world doesn't care unless they go on adventures with you. The same with your bike book. It is neither a fiction/adventure story, nor a technical how-to/DIY book. It appeals to nobody, which you've discovered.
gajanan khirao

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Re: My Books
Posted: Nov 10, 2017 8:33 AM   in response to: Royston Skipp in response to: Royston Skipp
 
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Royston ,

You need to register on Amazon Author Center . Also build you audience from making Facebook page and Twitter followers .

May be useful.

Gajanan Khirao
gajanan khirao

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Re: My Books
Posted: Nov 10, 2017 8:37 AM   in response to: Royston Skipp in response to: Royston Skipp
 
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First you need to review you book story from some known persons .

Gajanan Khirao
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