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Maria Tomas-Kee...

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Initial letter in new section (Drop Cap in Word) is not converting properly
Posted: Apr 27, 2016 11:06 AM
 
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I've seen this used before in Kindle books I have ... we've used the Drop Cap (larger first letter in a new section) in Word and after the conversion to preview our manuscript, the Drop Cap is positioned too low on the paragraph, skewing the rest of the paragraph. How can we best fix this in the manuscript so it will convert properly. Thanx.
Donna St Felix

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Re: Initial letter in new section (Drop Cap in Word) is not converting properly
Posted: Apr 27, 2016 11:11 AM   in response to: Maria Tomas-Kee... in response to: Maria Tomas-Kee...
 
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Maria Tomas-Keegan wrote:
I've seen this used before in Kindle books I have ... we've used the Drop Cap (larger first letter in a new section) in Word and after the conversion to preview our manuscript, the Drop Cap is positioned too low on the paragraph, skewing the rest of the paragraph. How can we best fix this in the manuscript so it will convert properly. Thanx.

I don't think KINDLE (digital) likes the Drop Cap.
Notjohn

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Re: Initial letter in new section (Drop Cap in Word) is not converting properly
Posted: Apr 27, 2016 12:06 PM   in response to: Maria Tomas-Kee... in response to: Maria Tomas-Kee...
 
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This can be done, but I've avoided it ever since Amazon changed the line spacing and therefore made every drop-cap obsolete. I think they look great on print books but don't see the point in digital. Instead I use boldface capitalized words to start a chapter, at 90 percent of full size. It doesn't work on the older Kindles and on the Look Inside sample, but even at 100 percent it looks okay. You can see the effect on the Look Inside sample of my Guide.

Amazon provides this recipe for drop-caps:

p.para {
font-size: 1em;
margin-bottom: 0;
margin-top: 0;
text-align: justify;
text-indent: 0;
}
@media amzn-kf8
{
span.dropcaps
{
font-weight:normal;
font-size:320%;
float:left;
margin-top:-0.3225em;
margin-bottom:-0.3245em;
}
}
@media amzn-mobi
{
span.dropcaps
{
font-size:3em;
font-weight: bold;
}
}

And this example of how to call up the drop-cap:

This is a sample

(You can see why you're having trouble!)

Good luck! -- NJ

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writerbn

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Re: Initial letter in new section (Drop Cap in Word) is not converting properly
Posted: Apr 27, 2016 4:36 PM   in response to: Maria Tomas-Kee... in response to: Maria Tomas-Kee...
 
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Drop caps are supported in the latest format for Kindle, but they won't be on older versions.

The only way to control them precisely in the new Kindle format is to use HTML and specify the drop-cap style in a cascading style sheet. Word will make a mess.
William Thompson

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Re: Initial letter in new section (Drop Cap in Word) is not converting properly
Posted: Apr 27, 2016 7:55 PM   in response to: writerbn in response to: writerbn
 
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To implement your dropcaps -- you will only be able to implement them on Kindle KF8 and they will probably look awful and misaligned on older mobi7 devices.

You could perhaps implement the dropcaps using CSS media queries. But you will have to to understand html and stylesheets well to do it. Don.t forget that even though you may have seen these dropcaps in other Kindle books -- these ebooks were probably formatted by html-literate formatting experts who didn't use the Word --> Kindle route. They would have used the Word-->Epub-->Kindle route or they would have used the Kindle Text Book Creator to generate their ebook with dropcaps.
Maria Tomas-Kee...

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Re: Initial letter in new section (Drop Cap in Word) is not converting properly
Posted: May 22, 2016 4:03 PM   in response to: Maria Tomas-Kee... in response to: Maria Tomas-Kee...
 
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Thank you all so much!
Dan Thompson

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Re: Initial letter in new section (Drop Cap in Word) is not converting properly
Posted: Feb 8, 2018 4:07 PM   in response to: Notjohn in response to: Notjohn
 
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Thank you so much for the CSS! It's been the "float: left" that I've been missing.
Notjohn

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Re: Initial letter in new section (Drop Cap in Word) is not converting properly
Posted: Feb 9, 2018 2:51 AM   in response to: Dan Thompson in response to: Dan Thompson
 
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I'm glad it works! (Never tried it myself, after my first experience when Amazon changed the recipe and I had to reformat several books to catch up, or rather avoid. I now use boldface small caps for the first few words.)

(Don't trust KDP to publish a print edition. Don't trust CreateSpace to publish an ebook. Each does one thing well and the other thing poorly.)

Good luck! -- NJ

Notjohn's Guide to E-Book & Print Formatting (2018 edition)

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