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zaipe

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Percentage 35 or 70 Changed for no reason
Posted: Mar 18, 2012 10:58 AM
 
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How is it that the price that sold being 3.99 was changed from 70% to 35% percent for no reason?
For only two of my sales I received 35% and the other sales I got 70%...
BUT the price was 3.99 should be 70% for each sale.
Why did Amazon adjust to 35% without any price change for two of my sales?
gldrummond

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Re: Percentage 35 or 70 Changed for no reason
Posted: Mar 18, 2012 11:08 AM   in response to: zaipe in response to: zaipe
 
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There is a reason, and it's in the terms you agreed to when signing up.

Only certain countries are eligible for the 70% royalty. All others are 35%.

Customers from countries that don't have a specific Amazon site can purchase through Amazon.com (or UK, etc.) and so those purchases will show 35%, even though the US, UK, and other sites listed in our reports are 70% countries.

Here's the link to the pertinent page: https://kdp.amazon.com/self-publishing/help?topicId=A29FL26OKE7R7B
amb50

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Re: Percentage 35 or 70 Changed for no reason
Posted: Mar 18, 2012 11:11 AM   in response to: zaipe in response to: zaipe
 
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Hi there,

It could be that your book was bought in countries other than US or UK as I think I'm right in saying that if someone in Austrailia (e.g) bought your book via Amazon.com you would only get %35 royalties.

My reports today told me I had sold my books at an average price of £1.50 over the last week when, in fact, I was only selling at 1.95 this week and it's been about 10 days since I changed my price. I think this must mean that sales reporting is way way behind.

regards
A
zaipe

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Re: Percentage 35 or 70 Changed for no reason
Posted: Mar 18, 2012 11:35 AM   in response to: gldrummond in response to: gldrummond
 
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Thanks

Its nice to know that someone bought from another country.

And good to know the answer to my question.

Thanks again
gldrummond

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Re: Percentage 35 or 70 Changed for no reason
Posted: Mar 18, 2012 12:32 PM   in response to: zaipe in response to: zaipe
 
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You're welcome, and good luck! :)
gav_40

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Re: Percentage 35 or 70 Changed for no reason
Posted: Mar 21, 2012 9:38 AM   in response to: gldrummond in response to: gldrummond
 
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I came on here to ask this very question, so thank you for clearing it up!

It's a bit crap that this happens, because Amazon's still getting paid the full amount...
zaipe

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Re: Percentage 35 or 70 Changed for no reason
Posted: Mar 21, 2012 12:01 PM   in response to: gav_40 in response to: gav_40
 
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I have stopped even trying to understand why Amazon is so confusing when they can make things so much simpler and better for us.
I gave up on associates or affiliates because when people clicked on my links, I didn't get the credit.
I gave up Seller Central because they made it impossible to build a site.
I just hope Kindle doesn't turn sour on me.
gldrummond

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Re: Percentage 35 or 70 Changed for no reason
Posted: Mar 21, 2012 4:01 PM   in response to: gav_40 in response to: gav_40
 
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No problem. :)

It has to do with sales treaties, so I'd guess Amazon isn't getting the full 65% on those sales.
sc46535

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Re: Percentage 35 or 70 Changed for no reason
Posted: Mar 22, 2012 9:31 AM   in response to: gldrummond in response to: gldrummond
 
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I followed the link looking for explanations and they still don't spell out under what circumstances they change the rate. There is no country list that specifics 35% royalty. I believe that, if we have set royalty rate at 70% (which is really only 65% b/c of the "delivery" charge they've added) then we should get it unless a detailed explanation is provided.

Seriously...
gldrummond

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Re: Percentage 35 or 70 Changed for no reason
Posted: Mar 22, 2012 11:31 AM   in response to: sc46535 in response to: sc46535
 
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All countries that aren't listed as 70% are 35%. They probably don't bother listing those because that would be far longer than the 70% list is.

I'm sure a lot of people would like a more detailed explanation of why 70% is the available royalty in only the listed countries, but the only one I remember seeing is that it has to do with sales and/or tax treaties. Sorry.
xdesk1

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Re: Percentage 35 or 70 Changed for no reason
Posted: Apr 16, 2012 6:02 PM   in response to: zaipe in response to: zaipe
 
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I agree with the frustration over Amazon not making perfectly clear when and why your royalty will be cut, especially when it is going to look for all the world like they got paid the full price but chopped your share in half for no clear reason.

I don't recall it being made clear to me, when setting up pricing, that a buyer coming arbitrarily from a location outside an Amazon region, will cut my profit in half. Let's face it, if a person in this world can get to Amazon.com, then they have Internet access and can pay for and download a digital book (in my case it's digital.) If can pay at all, and their currency is converted automatically, then they are effectively paying the asked-for amount. So why should the author be expected to accept only half the profit--at least without a clearly stated and legitimate reason.

I think we could all understand some reasons: a) there was a treaty stating some specific pricing arrangements, or b) there was some major shipping charge on a book that ate up the profits, c) the dollar was so bad that the conversion rate left no profit (eh, just kidding on that one..I hope :/ )

But seriously, if we're pretty well pushed into setting a price that's less than 9.99 so we can even get the 70% royalty, then we deserve to get it--or at least have it made very clear way in advance what will drop it to 35% and why.

This is why I set up my own site to publish my book and give me some alternate presence...though I'm not discounting Amazon's service. Still, if perception is reality, Amazon should beware of this kind of perception, and take steps to fix it.
-C
majortroubles

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Re: Percentage 35 or 70 Changed for no reason
Posted: Apr 19, 2012 4:09 AM   in response to: zaipe in response to: zaipe
 
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Dear KDP: I noticed on my six weeks report that My royalty on The Last Woman is 35% instead of 70%. Why is that? Carolyn Anderson
benarroch

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Re: Percentage 35 or 70 Changed for no reason
Posted: Apr 21, 2012 1:42 AM   in response to: gldrummond in response to: gldrummond
 
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wrong, only from amazon.com you can either get 35% or 70%, from all other sites if you set the price for 70% you'll get 70% for all your sales. In the Uk site only Uk customers can buy kindles, same for es, de, fr, it, etc...
benarroch

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Re: Percentage 35 or 70 Changed for no reason
Posted: Apr 21, 2012 1:45 AM   in response to: majortroubles in response to: majortroubles
 
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majortroubles

take a look at the book's details and see if you did not change the royalty scheme, sometimes it happens. For example you promote your book at .99 c for a feww weeks, then reprice it at 4$ with 70% royalties you have to change manually to 70% royalty, if you do not do so, then you still get 35%

http://www.amazon.com/HOME-ebook/dp/B004QTOOYE/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1334997901&sr=1-1

benarroch

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Re: Percentage 35 or 70 Changed for no reason
Posted: Apr 21, 2012 1:50 AM   in response to: xdesk1 in response to: xdesk1
 
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everything is explained, but all this is quite complicated, it is even less than 35%.

First of all in some countries you pay an extra fee for wireless delivery (even if you dont use it and download the book to your computer). In my country I have to pay 2$ more.

So if you sell a book for 3$, and I pay 5$, you get 1.05$ royalty from 5$, which is not 35% but 21%.

Then in the 70% royalty there is a delivery fee, which can be quite high if you publish a very long book and price it cheaply. These are generally a few cents, and less than 10 cents for a normal book, but if you publish a lot of pictures in the book it may go higher. You dont get that money.

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