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dorievee

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Re: Book Not Selling - Anyone Care To Give Pointers?
Posted: Mar 22, 2012 1:48 AM   in response to: naughtybutnice in response to: naughtybutnice
 
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Excellent. I do try to keep it poetic, so watch for the Rorschach line.

-D
moongolly

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Posted: Mar 22, 2012 4:48 AM   in response to: golem2b in response to: golem2b
 
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Golem2b, if ever I ask for help I hope that someone like you responds.
naughtybutnice

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Posted: Mar 22, 2012 5:07 AM   in response to: moongolly in response to: moongolly
 
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If the OP had followed the advice and pulled his book off altogether to correct a couple of typos, he would have lost his two 5 star reviews.

I was trying to protect him from making that mistake.

If you enjoy people shouting at you (typing in caps is shouting) that your book isn't worth buying because it has a couple of typos, well, I guess you're one of those people who thrive on conflict.

IMO the closing statement was unnecessarily harsh and detracted from the good advice Golemn2b did give.
etspress

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Posted: Mar 22, 2012 5:18 AM   in response to: dorievee in response to: dorievee
 
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It sounds like you've already recognized that you need a new cover. Be sure to post back and let us take a look. I do think you need to tweak your blurb. I love the language you use -kind of poetic, but you really need to get to the heart of your story with your blurb and leave the reader intrigued. Blurbs are tricky to write. It sounds like you have some typos and grammatical errors to fix. I agree that you shouldn't pull your book and lose your two reviews, but you would benefit from getting yourself a copy editor / proof reader. Once you get everything into place (a cover that pops, a blurb that rocks, and a polished shine to your content), then try a free promotion again, but this time make sure you notify all of the important sites. Here is a link to help you with that - http://www.squidoo.com/going-free-kindle-ebook-promotional-campaigns-for-authors

Good luck!

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naughtybutnice

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Posted: Mar 22, 2012 5:48 AM   in response to: dorievee in response to: dorievee
 
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Good quick fix on the cover, looking much better in the small thumbnail, although I would still have sized up the writing more, especially for your author name. I agree you do still need something better for the long term though.

You'll get there :)
moongolly

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Posted: Mar 22, 2012 3:33 PM   in response to: naughtybutnice in response to: naughtybutnice
 
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If you enjoy people shouting at you (typing in caps
is shouting) that your book isn't worth buying
because it has a couple of typos, well, I guess
you're one of those people who thrive on conflict.

No, I don't thrive on conflict and have spent time sobbing in the corner after harsh criticisms on my work. However, I found that these were the people who helped me the most once my snivelling session was over.

As for shouting, I see typed words as shouting only when the whole delivery is in caps, otherwise I see an emphatic point to which I should return and pay particular attention.

Hopefully, I've toughened up a little since my time in the defeatist corner and I guess what I was trying to say is that brutal rather than kind advice is more effective -- for me.
sketchco

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Posted: Mar 22, 2012 3:51 PM   in response to: naughtybutnice in response to: naughtybutnice
 
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yours, you always get the odd responder who makes you
feel like crawling under a rock and giving up on the
whole affair.

Wha? Were you referring to golem2b's advice? Probably the BEST advice I've seen in this thread, tone not even remotely approaching anything resembling aggression.

If you want, I could show you what real aggression is in black and white, but considering how many hereabouts seem so unbelievably hypersensitive and I'm in no mood (yet) to make anyone cry right now, I'll skip it. :)

For the record, I have no idea who golem2b is or what book(s) s/he's published. I've seen his/her messages around the forum -- I agree with some, disagree with others. Fanboy I am not. But that post of his in this thread, the OP should frame and glue to the side of her computer's monitor.
naughtybutnice

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Posted: Mar 22, 2012 4:21 PM   in response to: sketchco in response to: sketchco
 
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That's OK, you all go pull your books down until you're absolutely sure your work is one hundred percent perfect, and lose all your rankings and reviews in the process. Doesn't bother me. At least the OP had more sense than to do that.

:)
andresanthomas

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Posted: Mar 22, 2012 4:32 PM   in response to: naughtybutnice in response to: naughtybutnice
 
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Ugh. I have to agree. I don't know if I'm looking at old or new covers, but the black cover with the white text is not good. You cannot make out what it spells in either the thumbnail or the page view. The text is big enough in the page view but so fussy you can't read it. And the author name is so small in the page view you can't read that either.

I had a look at your preview too and you need editing help. The CAPITAL LETTERS, the incorrect dialogue punctuation, nearly every paragraph starts with Tset, and that's just the beginning. You need someone who knows what they're doing to edit this for you so you can make a good impression and build a good following over the long haul.
sketchco

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Posted: Mar 22, 2012 4:55 PM   in response to: naughtybutnice in response to: naughtybutnice
 
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That's OK, you all go pull your books down until
you're absolutely sure your work is one hundred
percent perfect, and lose all your rankings and
reviews in the process. Doesn't bother me. At least
the OP had more sense than to do that.

Fixated on that, I see. Me, I like to think people can think and pick out the parts that make sense and parts that don't before throwing it all out. But hey, that's me.

It's not like we can't figure out how to make changes without pulling anything off-line. Don't tell me I need to point that out. :)
dorievee

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Re: Book Not Selling - Anyone Care To Give Pointers?
Posted: Mar 23, 2012 12:58 AM   in response to: andresanthomas in response to: andresanthomas
 
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The new cover is the 'quick-fix' cover, not a polished product at all, at all.

Thanks for the advice on the caps and other things - I am going back and editing in between other writing projects. I also do have a friend who took some English classes and writing courses looking at it, and hopefully I get some response from him soon so I can fix everything up.

Unfortunately, that chunk in the beginning I wrote six or seven years ago, put down, came back, retouched but did not revamp, and yadda yadda on and on.

Egad. I do call him by his first name a lot. Oh no. Funny that the words of advice spoken softly here are causing me more personal anguish than the things labeled 'harsh' elsewhere.

What's up with the dialogue punctuation? I had someone point out to me that I shouldn't end dialogue sentences with periods, but I've hemmed and hawed over whether or not to be 'progressive' (i.e. wrong) and leave it stet or go at the book with a blow torch and Ctrl+F in hand.

I'm learning, learning. The impersonal bashing here is way more useful to me than all the, "It's good! No really." I get from friends.

Content-wise, typographical errors aside, interesting? How's the pacing?

-D
dorievee

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Re: Book Not Selling - Anyone Care To Give Pointers?
Posted: Mar 23, 2012 1:05 AM   in response to: etspress in response to: etspress
 
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Hey, thank you!

Heart of my story with my blurb... hrm. What was I missing there? I thought I kind of got close without writing a second precursor novella.

What I have been thinking, since you can 'crack the book' like you do at a real-live bookstore, is just cut the blurb down to a couple of lines, 'In Vincent's Wight...' etc. etc.

-D
fullyloadedman

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Re: Book Not Selling - Anyone Care To Give Pointers?
Posted: Mar 23, 2012 1:07 AM   in response to: dorievee in response to: dorievee
 
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If you are in the fantasy genre, you generally have to compete with high quality book covers. Most potential readers will crucify you before actually reading a single word from your synopsis, let alone clicking the 'look inside' feature.

Here is an example of a fantasy book cover.
http://www.amazon.com/Brokentide-Legend-Shadows-Book-ebook/dp/B0046H9BW6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1331354753&sr=8-1
dorievee

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Re: Book Not Selling - Anyone Care To Give Pointers?
Posted: Mar 23, 2012 1:17 AM   in response to: fullyloadedman in response to: fullyloadedman
 
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Thanks for that example. I'll make sure my cover is of suitable quality - I wasn't thinking scanned notepaper. ;)

Hopefully it competes when it's done.

-D
golem2b

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Re: Book Not Selling - Anyone Care To Give Pointers?
Posted: Mar 23, 2012 4:21 AM   in response to: sketchco in response to: sketchco
 
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[i]It's not like we can't figure out how to make changes without pulling anything off-line. Don't tell me I need to point that out. [/i]

[b]Exactly.[/b]

Did
I
ever
say
"UNPUBLISH?"

To the uninformed, the "slow-learners" if you will, your work DOES remain available for sale while you "revise and edit" it, no matter how many times you "pull" it in order to do so.

Class dismissed. wink
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