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Christopher Grant

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Ordering Paperback Author Copies through KDP account
Posted: Jan 6, 2017 11:31 AM
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I wrote a book and released it as a kindle book as well as a paperback version via the KDP program. Is it possible to order discounted author copies inside of KDP?

Thanks in advance for your help.
Donna St Felix

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Re: Ordering Paperback Author Copies through KDP account
Posted: Jan 6, 2017 11:40 AM   in response to: Christopher Grant in response to: Christopher Grant
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Christopher Grant wrote:
I wrote a book and released it as a kindle book as well as a paperback version via the KDP program. Is it possible to order discounted author copies inside of KDP?

NO. If you had published thru CreateSpace you could.
DDKimberley

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Re: Ordering Paperback Author Copies through KDP account
Posted: Jan 6, 2017 11:56 AM   in response to: Christopher Grant in response to: Christopher Grant
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Should have read the details on what you were signing up for, Christopher.

KDP tells you right up front that they offer neither print proofs or author copy discounts at this time. You'll just have to sit back and hope they get around to it at some point.
cdalebrittain

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Re: Ordering Paperback Author Copies through KDP account
Posted: Jan 6, 2017 12:36 PM   in response to: Christopher Grant in response to: Christopher Grant
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You could lower the price to barely over the production cost, order some copies, and put the price back up once they shipped. The danger could be if others saw the low price and grabbed it themselves. If you buy your own books at full price, however, at least you get your royalties.
MR R J LAIDLER

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Re: Ordering Paperback Author Copies through KDP account
Posted: Jan 6, 2017 12:43 PM   in response to: Christopher Grant in response to: Christopher Grant
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It is a feature Amazon say is coming but as the others have said it isn't available now.
Notjohn

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Re: Ordering Paperback Author Copies through KDP account
Posted: Jan 6, 2017 1:49 PM   in response to: Christopher Grant in response to: Christopher Grant
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KDP Print Beta was rolled out at the end of September. The process was buggy, and it seems to remain so to this day. The quality of the books that actually go on sale is rather low, as you can see by doing a search on Amazon for Independently published

Its sole advantage is that the author-publisher gets to see his or her paperback sales on the same page as the Kindle sales. But really, how big an advantage is that? How many seconds does it take, really, to check one's sales on Createspace--ten seconds, thirty seconds?

In exchange, you get that buggy publishing process, no physical proof copy, no discounted author copies for gift or resale, and no distribution to Barnes & Noble or to brick-and-mortar bookstores. (Most small bookstores will, as a favor to a customer and perhaps a small surcharge, order a Createspace or IngramSpark paperback.)

My advice is to stick with CreateSpace with its excellent cover wizard, helpful community forum, and direct-to-author discounted sales.

Good luck! -- NJ

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mixus

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Re: Ordering Paperback Author Copies through KDP account
Posted: Jan 6, 2017 2:23 PM   in response to: Christopher Grant in response to: Christopher Grant
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KDP do not offer free or discounted copies of your eBook titles. What makes you think they will offer free or discounted copies of your print book titles?

They claim, they do offer such benefits - yet. I'm sure they said the same thing about eBook titles at the beginning...

Createspace offer a far more friendly author experience.

Regards and all the best.

Bruce Alpine - https://brucealpine.com
dagny75

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Re: Ordering Paperback Author Copies through KDP account
Posted: Mar 13, 2017 2:42 PM   in response to: mixus in response to: mixus
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When I tried the KDP paperback it gave me my price for ordering a book, and then the list price. However, I see no place where I can order my books at the promised discount price as I could at CS. Any voices from Amazon answering that for us?
cdalebrittain

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Posted: Mar 14, 2017 6:50 AM   in response to: dagny75 in response to: dagny75
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What you interpreted as the discount price was actually the minimum price you could set, at which you'd get zero royalties. Yes, CS will allow you to buy author copies for the cost of printing (plus shipping). KDP print won't. One of many reasons many prefer CS (I like the fact that you can talk on the phone to humans at CS).

The best you can do at KDP print is price your book at the minimum, order copies, wait until your order ships and then raise the price again. But in the meantime any other buyers who liked the looks of it could also buy it. The KDP print minimum includes a cut for Amazon, whereas the CS author discount price does not.
Notjohn

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Posted: Mar 14, 2017 12:30 PM   in response to: mixus in response to: mixus
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Well, I don't recall that Amazon ever promised KDP books would be discounted, and I've been doing this since the platform rolled out in November 2007.

But it is certainly true that Amazon will tighten the screws when it feels it can safely do so. Just this month, Amazon Associates (affiliates) had their commissions pretty much cut in half. I always got 7.5 or 8 percent by the end of the month. Now it's 4 percent, give or take.

This is why I'd never sign up for Kindle Select. In 2007, 2008, and I think 2009, Amazon paid 35 percent Kindle royalties. It wasn't until Apple exploded that formula that Amazon grudgingly matched the 70 percent (though subtracting a download fee!). You may be sure that when Barnes & Noble goes under, we'll be back to 35 percent across the board.

Good luck! -- NJ

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Kathy Griffith

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Re: Ordering Paperback Author Copies through KDP account
Posted: Mar 14, 2017 2:08 PM   in response to: Notjohn in response to: Notjohn
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It took five days, but my paperback is listed on the same page as my ebook, and I used Createspace. I love Createspace :)
Dale Leavitt

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Re: Ordering Paperback Author Copies through KDP account
Posted: Jul 13, 2017 10:21 AM   in response to: cdalebrittain in response to: cdalebrittain
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I ordered 5 copies of my paperback. Did not show up on royalty report. Guessing you must have someone else order them in for you.
Joseph M Erhardt

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Posted: Jul 13, 2017 10:46 AM   in response to: Dale Leavitt in response to: Dale Leavitt
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Dale Leavitt wrote:
I ordered 5 copies of my paperback. Did not show up on royalty report. Guessing you must have someone else order them in for you.

If you ordered as a customer, they should show on your royalties report as sales. If you ordered the discounted "author's copies" from CreateSpace, those DO NOT count as sales, and there are no royalties.
Ward Rogers

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Posted: Jul 13, 2017 2:18 PM   in response to: Joseph M Erhardt in response to: Joseph M Erhardt
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Joseph M Erhardt wrote:
Dale Leavitt wrote:
I ordered 5 copies of my paperback. Did not show up on royalty report. Guessing you must have someone else order them in for you.

If you ordered as a customer, they should show on your royalties report as sales. If you ordered the discounted "author's copies" from CreateSpace, those DO NOT count as sales, and there are no royalties.

I don't know about you, but I wish posters would stop assuming this forum is inhabited by mind readers. How about they give enough information so helpful would such as yourself don't have to list three or four possibilities, hoping that one applies? OTOH, if wishes were pints we'd all be happy blokes.

Heidi Smith

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Re: Ordering Paperback Author Copies through KDP account- any updates?
Posted: Aug 13, 2017 4:51 AM   in response to: Christopher Grant in response to: Christopher Grant
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I understand that KDP is in process of absorbing Createspace. It doesn't seem to make sense to publish print books through Createspace at this point and I wonder if KDP plans to allow authors to print books now or in the future. if not, how are authors managing the printed version of their book?
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