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elizabethjasper

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Posted: May 5, 2012 4:23 AM   in response to: shelsant in response to: shelsant
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I feel your pain - it's only a matter of time before I get the old 1* review myself.

Regarding the reviewer being from the publishing world or a writer, please try to remember that most writers and publishers are also avid readers and entitled to offer a review, especially if they think they can help. I review (honestly) but if I cannot give four or five stars, I do try to explain why. Maybe the reviewer was honestly trying to help.
amb50

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Posted: May 5, 2012 4:38 AM   in response to: reuben88 in response to: reuben88
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I personally would/ will not review another author's fictional work as I don't see that it's my place to. I prefer to leave it to readers but I will happily help or advise via the forum.
Chin up, I too believe in Karma..

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etspress

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Posted: May 5, 2012 5:16 AM   in response to: amb50 in response to: amb50
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I believe there are authors who do this sort of thing which is a shame, but there are also readers who give 1 star reviews. We have no way of knowing or proving our case in these situations, so it doesn't really do any good to get up in arms over it. There are also cases of authors writing 5 star reviews for their own books (or recruiting friends), and cases of honest authors who get criticized because they have all good reviews. You can't win or lose in the review game. It's almost best to ignore them.

That being said -I really wish that Amazon would only allow reviews from verified purchases. I think that would help resolve some of these issues. I know a lot of people then would be unhappy because they submit books to reviewers / bloggers, but perhaps Amazon could allow legit reviewers / bloggers apply to be a verified reviewer w/o purchasing. I don't know, but I'm certain they could clean it up some. I no longer trust reviews after all of the underhanded things I've read about.
martitalbott

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Posted: May 5, 2012 6:35 AM   in response to: reuben88 in response to: reuben88
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Sooner or later, it happens to all authors -- If you received a bad review, you are in good company.

"I'm telling you I barely made it out of that book alive." -- Pride and Prejudice -- Jane Austen
"Unfortunately, by the time I got to the end, I was so disappointed that I had a hard time falling asleep." -- Under the Dome -- Steven King
"It is an empty tale. It's charming but vacant." -- Hunger Games -- Suzanne Collins

From my blog - How to Handle a bad review:
http://maritalbottstories.blogspot.com/2012/01/how-to-handle-bad-book-review.html
thetimucuan

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Posted: May 5, 2012 6:53 AM   in response to: reuben88 in response to: reuben88
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I had a writer send me an insane PM on another board (he was simply angry because I was selling thousands of copies a month back then and he was selling zero) and then a few minutes later post a one star review that was rabid. Another one star reviewer admitted on another forum that he was writing in my genre. It does happen. I have noticed that the few one star reviews I have are almost all by someone who has never reviewed any other books, but the five and four star reviews are by people who have reviewed a lot of other books.

I have not reviewed a book in more than a year because I do not think I should be reviewing books as a writer.
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Posted: May 5, 2012 6:57 AM   in response to: etspress in response to: etspress
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I think the Hateful use of 1 star reviews is just plain wrong!

Also the 1 shot wonders -- reviewers that leave 1 - 1 star review are Highly suspicious

You cannot leave ANY Review without logging in and if it is a verified purchase, this is an indication the poster created a second account.

This action is a violation of Amazon's TOS!

Amazon really should do something.

Amazon knows who they are! Their IP addresses are available to the Company

It would take a half way competent IP tech about 20 minutes to compile a list of all of the 1 star wonders (Some will have Multiple multiple accounts!)

Then at the very least the 1 star Reviews should be removed!

On the subject of someone in the business (Sorry Hitch) it isn't fair to criticize another author about their writing skills!

No matter how you say it you are simply putting your self above them saying "I know Better Than you!"

Of course you probably do, but that is no reason to Squash someone else!

If it is a $17.00 book, that is 1 thing but $2.99???

How many times have you enjoyed a movie that a reviewer hated??

No matter how you cut it, it is still just YOUR opinion!

To leave a long critique to publically chastize another person on their writing skills in such a way as to negatively impact their sales efforts is frankly, WRONG!

JT

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reneestar

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Posted: May 5, 2012 7:07 AM   in response to: reuben88 in response to: reuben88
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What can you do? It is VERY un-fair! "They" talk about reviews from family and friends and to me, if someone, anyone, buys the book they should be allowed to review...as long as it is an honest assessment. BUT not long after my book was released I got a very painful 1 Star from someone who I am about 99% sure was an ex. It was obvious he never even read the book and just wanted to hurt me. Another was from someone that tried to blackmail me into letting her/him do editing work. BE CAREFUL. There are a lot of really disturbed people and yes, Amazon should take action. It is not fair!
reneestar

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Posted: May 5, 2012 7:10 AM   in response to: reuben88 in response to: reuben88
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Reuben....I so agree with you.
shelsant

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Posted: May 5, 2012 7:14 AM   in response to: marns26 in response to: marns26
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I don't think anyone can stop bad reviews because everyone has a different idea of what a story should sound like. No matter how some of us want to dress it up at the end of the day someone will always find something negative to say. I have seen negative reviews across the board. There are thousands and thousands of books that will always find critics with something bad to say. Take a look at the books in the top 100 and you will see someone has a few reviews that follow suit. So...I have learned to keep doing what I like. The bottom line is...there will always be someone out there with something to say.

Show me a book with real reviews that has no negative reviews...and I will tell you chances are that author has real connections.

Harry Potter 91...1 star reviews.
http://www.amazon.com/Harry-Potter-Paperback-Box-Books/product-reviews/0545162076/ref=sr_1_1_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1

I Am Number Four 90...1 and 2 star reviews.

http://www.amazon.com/Number-Four-Lorien-Legacies-ebook/product-reviews/B003SE75ZS/ref=pd_sim_b_cm_cr_acr_txt_1?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1

Fifty Shades of Grey. 753..1 star reviews...

http://www.amazon.com/Fifty-Shades-Grey-Trilogy-ebook/dp/B007J4T2G8/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1336226963&sr=1-1

The Hunger Games 429... 1 stars

http://www.amazon.com/Mockingjay-Final-Hunger-Games-ebook/dp/B003XF1XOQ/ref=sr_1_3?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1336226963&sr=1-3

The point is... we will always see critics and they will always have something to say. If I see a book without those 1 or 2 star reviews I wonder about the reviews. As for my two low reviews. I can't help what I write. I know what I love, and that is why I write. Nobody has the write to tell me to stick to one genre. As for the other review about 75%...that is his opinion. At the end of the day the show must go on.
shelsant

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Posted: May 5, 2012 7:33 AM   in response to: booknookbiz in response to: booknookbiz
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I have a hard time taking anyone serious that has something to sell me in a post. That is putting it nicely trust me on that.I have been burnt by "publishing company frauds" before! I'm not claiming you are one. However, your post is a little circumspect.

"Because of my profession, and the rules in my shop, I rarely write reviews any longer (as I set up a rule that no one in my shop may review for any of our clients or any publisher or author for whom we've done work--obvious conflict of interest); but when I do, I'm honest.
I've written reviews worded very much like the one you've cited, that you say is "clearly" the work of an author or a publishing company. I've stated that scene transitions are bad; that bad timelines have existed, that impossible poisons have been used, that an author "rushed" the end, and yes, I've said that nothing short of a rewrite will help the book. I'm sure the author didn't like it--but here's the bottom line, which none of you may like: we, as readers, are entitled to our opinions. We're also entitled--and, in fact, in my opinion, obligated--to tell other readers, who may be considering plunking down their hard-earned dollars--that we didn't like it, and why. In a day and age in which most people seem to suffer from an utter lack of guts, and worry more about not making waves and being "liked" than being honest, it's harder and harder, to my mind, to find competent reviews that aren't simply fluff or Klausners. "

If the web address belongs to you at the bottom of this post...then you are selling something. I think any reader that reads the two star reviews will see them for what they are. I also have two really good reviews on the same book. My sales have never been better so...onward I march.......

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bubbletc

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Posted: May 5, 2012 7:36 AM   in response to: vlgallas in response to: vlgallas
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And I thought one of mine was bad for complaining that set in the UK didn't feature any US characters or description for what was happening in the US.
shelsant

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Posted: May 5, 2012 7:45 AM   in response to: bubbletc in response to: bubbletc
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LOL

This is the reason you have to take some of the reviews with a grain of salt. I mean who writes a bad review about that? That is as bad as my one star review.

"This is a very short ebook, that has more "actors" in it than pages. This writer has imagination and should try to decide what she wants to write; be it science fiction or fantasy. Buy, read, rate and write you review. If you disagree with me so be it, but remember your opinion is important."

I don't think people understand that books that are meant for children..might not be novel length. This book is a Young Adult book. It is meant for young adults. I write stories anywhere from 19000 to 40,000 in word length because I want to appeal to the young adults that dislike novels. My daughter hates reading, but I have found that she will read books that are less than 60,000 words.

I guess I should be happy. A lot of people have read my book...and if I only have two bad reviews...I should count myself lucky.
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Posted: May 5, 2012 7:48 AM   in response to: marns26 in response to: marns26
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[i]Not all negative reviews are people out to get you. [/i]

True enough, and the ones that aren't are usually worded in a way that is helpful and not slamming you. However, what we are talking about here are not those that are constructive, but rather destructive. I do have some one and two star reviews that are honest reviews, but I also have some that stink to high heaven. I've been doing this lone enough now that I feel confident enough to say that when I get one that's not honest I know it.
shelsant

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Posted: May 5, 2012 7:52 AM   in response to: jtbigtoad in response to: jtbigtoad
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I agree. As an author I can't tell another author how to pace their story. One of the main reasons is because I don't know what that author wants to do with that story. It is arrogant to tell someone that their work should be re-rewritten because you don't like the pace. Clearly it was written by someone in the field.I can't cry to hard about the review. My sales are still doing fine. As a matter of fact it might have helped them.
shelsant

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Posted: May 5, 2012 7:59 AM   in response to: marns26 in response to: marns26
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I will not re-write a story because one person thinks I should. I love my book, and it is a book meant for a teenager. It is also part of a series. I have four reviews on that book. I have a 5star, 4star, and then the 2, and 1 star. I got a 1 star because the reader thought the book was short, and he thought I should write in one genre. It wasn't because my book sucked to high heaven, or because it was poorly written. It was his opinion. I did online revisions on that book with my blog...so it has been worked over. So another re-write is out of the question.
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