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kennydill

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Re: Propose KDP Boards Start Posting IP Numbers
Posted: Jun 17, 2012 10:08 AM   in response to: punchygonzales in response to: punchygonzales
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booknookbiz

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Re: Propose KDP Boards Start Posting IP Numbers
Posted: Jun 19, 2012 8:48 PM   in response to: punchygonzales in response to: punchygonzales
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"If and when Amazon turns on IP tracking, we'll
see."

Really? You can't know till then eh? Amazing....

I get the feeling you're one of those people who
would try to pack wheel bearings with mud and say,
"It works fine. Everyone should do it."


Nope. I stated my position--it's easy to use proxies--if you know how--to log in and never be tracked. As I also said, since you INSISTED I was wrong, source it. In other words, cite your sources and your proof. That should be no problem, right?

Morover, as gldrummond points out, it's a) easy to have a new IP every time you log in, or boot your computer, etc. I have a static IP for my [i]server[/i], but NOT for my email account, which is hosted on my domain's server, or b) easy to go to MacDonald's, coffeeshop, etc., or even the public library.

With regard to the whole 30-mile thing, mother of heaven--for people who live in cosmopolitan areas, that might be a bit of a disadvantage. I can see it now: the Punch Police: "you're booted because someone who lives within 30 miles of you, IN LOS ANGELES, posted a post agreeing with you! You're obviously psychotic and posting to yourself! Ve Haff Vays to make you Talk!" I live 20 miles from the boundaries of "the City," but I still have nearly 300,000 people probably within 30 miles of me. Those who live 50 miles to the south have 2 [i]million [/i]people within 30 miles of them. So--let's not be absurd, eh?

I mean, c'mon, people, GET OVER YOURSELVES. Between the evil reviewers, the alleged "stalkers" (wait for it: FBI investigating the stalking next!!!) and now the idea that people are, en masse, creating fake identities for themselves and logging in here--to, what, AGREE WITH THEMSELVES?? ARGUE with themselves???--this place is starting to sound like the intake room at "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest."

And, lastly, let me add that watching the anthropomorphic projection in these threads is [i]FASCINATING[/i]. Want to know who someone really is? Simply read up on what they claim everyone ELSE is doing, and what everyone ELSE'S motives are.

And just in case it's not clear: for those of you so obsessed with worrying whether anyone [i]else [/i]is logging in, heaven forbid, as more than one person, step forth and be [b]genuinely [/b]identified. Otherwise, the hypocrisy runs a bit deep. You're no better than they, and there's no way to PROVE that your motives are any better or purer than theirs. There was just a gigantic pissing contest about an author being allegedly "outed" on these forums, and how it was against the TOS--so frankly, someone HIDING behind a username and demanding that everyone ELSE get tracked by IP just sounds...[i]absurd [/i]to me. Apparently, anonymity is the POINT of these bloody forums, even though some of us don't feel the need to use it, as we don't HIDE.

I don't particularly CARE about IP tracking one way or the other--although, as I pointed out, it's easy to get around and because obviously, I'm not exactly hiding--but [u]I do care about the lunacy and paranoia level around here[/u]. It would be nice if a few sane people would stop feeding it. It seems to worsen daily.

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thetimucuan

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Re: Propose KDP Boards Start Posting IP Numbers
Posted: Jun 20, 2012 4:04 AM   in response to: booknookbiz in response to: booknookbiz
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Personally, I could not care less how many alter egos you have here or how melodramatic your posts seem to always be. I do care when someone tries to harm my income and lies about what books are mine.
gldrummond

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Re: Propose KDP Boards Start Posting IP Numbers
Posted: Jun 20, 2012 9:00 AM   in response to: thetimucuan in response to: thetimucuan
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I'm guessing that was to Kenny and not Hitch?
punchygonzales

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Re: Propose KDP Boards Start Posting IP Numbers
Posted: Jun 20, 2012 3:51 PM   in response to: booknookbiz in response to: booknookbiz
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Of the measly 200 or so regular usernames here, the chances of 4 or 5 being from the same general geographical location is nearly zilch. I don't know what's worse, your math skills or your people skills.

Everyone with a measurable IQ knows that forums are notorious for people of malicious intent and egocentric compulsions using a bunch of usernames. In fact, you're the only person I've ever come across who argued the opposite. Protesting a bit much?
gldrummond

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Re: Propose KDP Boards Start Posting IP Numbers
Posted: Jun 20, 2012 11:37 PM   in response to: punchygonzales in response to: punchygonzales
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I've yet to find any forum software that doesn't track IP addresses and make them available in the administrator panel.

So Amazon has everyone's IPs, and can do a search to bring up every username that has logged on with a certain IP address.

It's probably against the privacy policy for them to post those publicly.

If you're worried, send the user names you think are all one person in with a complaint, and let Amazon check into whether or not you're correct.
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