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booknookbiz

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Gang:

No additional information from me required; direct from the horse's mouth--if you don't want your books rejected, pay attention.

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Posted: Jun 8, 2012 2:42 AM   in response to: booknookbiz in response to: booknookbiz
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Great stuff. Thanks to the pointer to the blog, which is new to me and looks promising. I had missed the discussion on MobileRead, which I miss as often as I hit. It just doesn't have the fascination that this forum does.
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Posted: Jun 8, 2012 3:08 AM   in response to: notjohn in response to: notjohn
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De nada.

I obtained the information off of one of the newsfeeds I read through one of my feedreaders.

However: this is the problem with "shortcuts." [u]Kovid has repeatedly told people that Calibre is not a production tool[/u]--but no one ever listens. I've said it here myself. I'm sorry for the hundreds, if not thousands of people who stopped in here and read bad advice, and will now have their books rejected--and may not ever figure out WHY.

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Posted: Jun 8, 2012 4:45 AM   in response to: booknookbiz in response to: booknookbiz
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That's a pity. All six of my books were done with Calibre. I have just checked them on the advanced previewer and everything is as it should be. They are just plain MOBI files, of course, nothing fancy - they are novels.

Book number seven is weeks away from publication and this leaves me with a dilemma. If anyone can answer the following questions for me, I would be very grateful.

Might it be in my interests to republish my books by uploading the relevant Word files? I use a Mac and am no fan of the Windows-only Mobipocket, and I took one look at Kindlegen and ran a mile. Besides that, I have no desire to learn Html.

If I upload a Word file for KDP to convert, what about the cover? Can I just insert the Jpeg onto the first page or do I need to do something cleverer than that?

Thank you in anticipation.
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Posted: Jun 8, 2012 7:16 AM   in response to: davidwaine1 in response to: davidwaine1
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I would say that you don't need to republish existing titles on Amazon.com, but you need to exercise caution with your next upload.

One reported case of a rejected book does not mean that this will happen to all Calibre-generated files until the end of time. I have heard many people say that Barnes and Noble will not accept Calbre-generated epub files because they are not epubcheck compliant, but thousands of people have published such files on B&N successfully, myself included.

You can watch bug fixes in the Calibre release notes and you can watch bug reports on the Calibre website. Most likely your next Calibre ebook will go through KDP smoothly.

Uploading a Word file to KDP is not the best option, but you can do it. You will upload the cover separately in a section of KDP called "upload your book cover". There are several problems with this approach that I have experienced in the recent past:
1) The size of your free sample will increase from about 11% of the text (when you upload a .mobi file generated by Calibre or KindleGen 1.1 or 1.2) to about 15% of the text when you upload an HTML or Word file.
2) Kindle Previewer (with "Devices" option set to "Kindle Fire") cannot find the book cover in the .mobi file that KDP will place in the "enhanced previewer". I am guessing that this means that your cover image may not work on the Kindle Fire and possibly some other devices.
3) The resulting cover does not work as a full-screen image in Kindle for PC (it has margins all around).
4) You won't have the NCX in your .mobi file.
5) This may not be applicable to your ebooks, but if you have a lot of links in your free sample and they are enclosed by various punctuation marks (brackets, parentheses, commas, etc.) KDP processor may produce a defective free sample with the text of the links mangled by irrelevant symbols and deletions. This problem also happens with KindleGen 1.2, but does not happen with KG1.1 and KG2.x.
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Posted: Jun 8, 2012 9:01 AM   in response to: man2010 in response to: man2010
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Thank you for your help, Man2010. That has given me a lot to think about. I thought when you do the 'Upload Book Cover' section, it just put the cover on your Amazon page. Am I wrong in that?
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The cover image you upload in Step 5 is used both as the product image on the Amazon store AND as the cover image in your book.

If you include a cover image within your book file, it will be suppressed. The same is true of any image that appears at the start of your book file. So if you were in the habit of including a frontispiece, as I often did, you must now move it back to follow the title page, else it won't be displayed.
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Posted: Jun 8, 2012 9:33 AM   in response to: davidwaine1 in response to: davidwaine1
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Though you might want to check them out on the Fire, it has been my experience that a KDP book, once converted, will work for all time.

As posted earlier, there's no reason whatever to include a cover within your book file. The product image will be imported into the book, and if you have a cover there. it will be suppressed.
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Posted: Jun 8, 2012 11:42 AM   in response to: man2010 in response to: man2010
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I would say that you don't need to republish existing
titles on Amazon.com, but you need to exercise
caution with your next upload.

One reported case of a rejected book does not mean
that this will happen to all Calibre-generated files
until the end of time.


Man2010:

It's not "[i]one[/i]" reported case. It's two in the article and more that haven't been "reported" to Kovid. I confirmed this with my own Tech. Acct. Manager at Amazon before I posted it. Moreover, with all due respect, I reported that Amazon had rejected Calibre books in what, 2009? Innumerable Kindle books have been published that will work fine on reading devices but will NOT work on reading apps, from 2008-2011, if they were made from Calibre; and now there's a new issue.

So, it's not an isolated incident in any sense of the word. As far as epubcheck fails, it will happen 100% of the time if the user is going through any aggregator who actually USES epubcheck, e.g., Lulu, Inscribe Digital, etc. B&N, like Amazon, takes a lot of improperly-prepared files.

(I had a guy who sent me a PDF for a quote. It was hundreds upon hundreds of pages of trial transcripts. The resulting quote was rather high. He sent me a nasty email telling me he'd found "software on his computer that made the book in an hour," and basically imputed that I was a thief. I've now seen the resulting book on Amazon, and it looks like utter crap. Clearly, it's a PDF-->Something or PDF-->Calibre conversion. Somehow, THAT got through, but, eventually, someone will complain about it.)

If ePUBcheck is run on a Calibre-generated ePUB, without some interim editing, it will fail. It's not like I'm defaming the damn thing. Calibre does everything [i]it's supposed to[/i]. Kovid is the first to say, "it is NOT a production tool."

{shrug}. Hell, do what you want. I've reported it here.

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Posted: Jun 8, 2012 1:31 PM   in response to: notjohn in response to: notjohn
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Thanks for that, Notjohn. My questions are all answered now. I would love to check it out on Kindle Fire, but that particular device has still to hit British shores, despite being promised since January. I do have the advanced Previewer, though. Is that an acceptable substitute?
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Posted: Jun 8, 2012 2:24 PM   in response to: davidwaine1 in response to: davidwaine1
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I think the "enhanced previewer" is spot on, though I haven't been very particular about assessing it. It looks like a great piece of work, and I kick myself that I didn't download it long ago. (I couldn't see the point of the old downloadable previewer, so I just ignored this one.)
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Posted: Jun 8, 2012 6:04 PM   in response to: notjohn in response to: notjohn
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It still has a couple of wee glitches, BUT, generally speaking, I find it extremely reliable for views of MOBI, and we even use it for Fixed-Format previewing--it's very accurate.

HTH.

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Posted: Jun 8, 2012 7:03 PM   in response to: booknookbiz in response to: booknookbiz
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"If ePUBcheck is run on a Calibre-generated ePUB, without some interim editing, it will fail."

This is incorrect. If I make a mobi first with KindleGen/Previewer (making sure the HTML passes the W3C validator first), and then take that mobi file into calibre to make an epub from it, it will pass Epub Check every time.

If you try to make an epub from HTML or Word Docs with Calibre, those may fail, but not so with converting from a properly made mobi from KindleGen.
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Posted: Jun 8, 2012 8:07 PM   in response to: punchygonzales in response to: punchygonzales
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If I make a mobi first with KindleGen/Previewer (making sure the HTML passes the W3C validator first), and then take that mobi file into calibre to make an epub from it, it will pass Epub Check every time.

Nice info, thanks, I will keep that in mind.
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Posted: Jun 8, 2012 8:09 PM   in response to: booknookbiz in response to: booknookbiz
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Hell, do what you want.

I will, but thanks for the headsup :-)
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