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louisewise

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Sock puppet reviews or BBA!
Posted: Jun 14, 2012 1:25 AM
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I hoped this would be a controversial discussion, but so far people failed to comment or agreed that this is a bad conduct for an author. But then I invited people to write in anonymously...

http://www.louisewise.com/2012/06/sock-puppets-no-strings-attached.html

I'd love some views in defence of sock puppets/BBA.
truejdk

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Re: Sock puppet reviews or BBA!
Posted: Jun 14, 2012 3:45 AM   in response to: louisewise in response to: louisewise
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The only defence I can think of is that it breaks authors out of a vicious cycle. A lot of reviewing / promo sites and reviewers will implement some sort of quality control - based on existing reviews.
I have seen it said that a book needs X amount of 4 star+ reviews before it will be considered.
For the author to get reviews, they need to increase publicity. To increase publicity, they need to get reviews. To get reviews, they need... and so on. It can be massively frustrating, and so the temptation is to put those bogus reviews up there, so that they can secure genuine reviews.
That's how I see it, anyway.

And, no. I haven't done any reviews of my own work - although I'm working hard to find other people willing to read and review!
loricgram

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Re: Sock puppet reviews or BBA!
Posted: Jun 14, 2012 5:00 AM   in response to: truejdk in response to: truejdk
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Did you respond to your own post with a sock puppet..? Because I'm pretty sure it's "defense" and that's not a common misspelling...
txpublisher

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Re: Sock puppet reviews or BBA!
Posted: Jun 14, 2012 5:57 AM   in response to: loricgram in response to: loricgram
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The British spelling is 'defence.'
headofwords

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Re: Sock puppet reviews or BBA!
Posted: Jun 14, 2012 6:04 AM   in response to: louisewise in response to: louisewise
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If the only way to get a review is to do them yourself then your time would be better spent writing a better book. No one can tell anyone else whether or not they can publish anymore but once it's out there it's up to readers to decide whether it's good or not. If the only way a writer can get a review better than a one star is by writing it themselves then they probably shouldn't be publishing.
loricgram

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Re: Sock puppet reviews or BBA!
Posted: Jun 14, 2012 6:11 AM   in response to: headofwords in response to: headofwords
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Also.. friends, family, writing circles, random people you can intimidate or guilt trip into at least saying your work wasn't awful... those people exist too.

There are lots of ways around writing your own review.
louisewise

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Re: Sock puppet reviews or BBA!
Posted: Jun 14, 2012 8:41 AM   in response to: loricgram in response to: loricgram
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Re Defence/defense - Brits spell it correctly, it's the Americans who spell it wrong! ;)
loricgram

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Re: Sock puppet reviews or BBA!
Posted: Jun 14, 2012 8:48 AM   in response to: louisewise in response to: louisewise
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It's odd that the American spelling is based on the French spelling and not the British...

Oh that's right, Brits are the only ones we ever really had to defend ourselves against and we were allied with the French on that one.

Now it all makes sense.
marylisabob

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Re: Sock puppet reviews or BBA!
Posted: Jun 14, 2012 11:11 AM   in response to: louisewise in response to: louisewise
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Sockpuppets, strawman sockpuppets, meatpuppets ... they've all made the review system on Amazon and other sites practically worthless. I rarely even read reviews anymore - what's the point?

I wish all the bookselling sites would do away with them. After all, there is a look inside and a seven-day return period, do readers really need them? There are plenty of outlets (blogs, newspapers, emagazines, etc.) that provide reviews for ebooks. Let those places be where readers go if they need an honest review, because it's hard to get many on Amazon. IMO
donald98765

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Re: Sock puppet reviews or BBA!
Posted: Jun 14, 2012 8:06 PM   in response to: louisewise in response to: louisewise
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Great article! Reviews should only come from readers and not friends and family.

I couldn't help but notice you marketed the heck out of your own series in this article. That's smart. Post an article and sneak in your books.

I like that! : ) They do look good!
headofwords

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Re: Sock puppet reviews or BBA!
Posted: Jun 14, 2012 8:18 PM   in response to: marylisabob in response to: marylisabob
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I like reading the reviews, although its the three star ones I usually pay attention to. I'm always suspicious of anything gushing and a quick glance at the look inside usually tells me whether the one stars are justified or not.
louisewise

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Re: Sock puppet reviews or BBA!
Posted: Jun 15, 2012 12:00 AM   in response to: donald98765 in response to: donald98765
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Donald - they aren't my books. I'm a book blogger as well as an author and that was someone else promoting on my blog. I agree that it's a good article! :D
truejdk

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Re: Sock puppet reviews or BBA!
Posted: Jun 15, 2012 1:27 AM   in response to: louisewise in response to: louisewise
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Just to confirm - I am not a sock puppet, but I am a Brit, hence the spelling!
louisewise

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Re: Sock puppet reviews or BBA!
Posted: Jun 15, 2012 1:40 AM   in response to: truejdk in response to: truejdk
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These boards are becoming like the Amazon forums - bitchy.

Too many people pointing fingers and screaming: spammer/sock/regulations/can't to that/can't do this/I'm reporting you/abuse.

I'd like to think we are adults here and able to discuss something without all that. Seems I was wrong.

Sorry, you were accused trueidk.

sighs<
truejdk

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Re: Sock puppet reviews or BBA!
Posted: Jun 15, 2012 2:18 AM   in response to: louisewise in response to: louisewise
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Don't worry about it.
Every one of us has frustrations and stresses, and we're going to get abuse, mockery and whatnot throughout our writing endeavours. Take it all to heart, and you'll get nowhere.

Keep smiling :-)
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