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lins777

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Re: A Refresher Course for "tag me", "review me", "buy me" posts
Posted: Jun 16, 2012 10:45 AM   in response to: writeranne in response to: writeranne
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Oh dear, guilty as charged, M'lad. I've posted my email address on here a few times...

They say ignorance is bliss, but it's not is it? Perfect end to the perfect week :-(

I do wish that we had a PM system, though. That would make contacting fellow KDP's easier.

Also if someone could clarify a point that has been mentioned on another post: reviewing other authors work; I've reviewed a few peeps here but would hate it for them to 'get told off' by KDP. I only give good reviews (If I don't like the work, i won't review). I can't find where it says anything about reviewing other authors work. Any pointers, guys ;-) Thanks!
inyun

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Re: A Refresher Course for "tag me", "review me", "buy me" posts
Posted: Jun 16, 2012 11:21 AM   in response to: lins777 in response to: lins777
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Not suppose to review in one's own genre or was that gender? Hmmmm

As long as you write in a different genre it is fine. I admit to being too loose in my 5 Star reviews, but if I liked it I liked it.

Thom

I think everyone is still a bit edgy from last weeks meltdown. We all just breathe deeply and drive on by.
lins777

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Re: A Refresher Course for "tag me", "review me", "buy me" posts
Posted: Jun 16, 2012 11:29 AM   in response to: inyun in response to: inyun
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Hiya Thom

Thanks - trouble is I have reviewed in my own genre, I think, but I can't understand why i shouldn't appreciate a fellow authors work. Understandable if I put up a 1* but hey, I'll go with the flow, now.

Good to know you're back to your heavy breathing...oops, deep breathing ;-)

Lins
inyun

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Re: A Refresher Course for "tag me", "review me", "buy me" posts
Posted: Jun 16, 2012 11:52 AM   in response to: lins777 in response to: lins777
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Amazon does not enforce the rules. It may be that they are currently culling the reviews that have been written by authors in same genre but somehow I doubt it.

That was a rule to keep authors from tearing up their rival's work. In your case you issued a very good honest review.

Thom
vlgallas

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Re: A Refresher Course for "tag me", "review me", "buy me" posts
Posted: Jun 16, 2012 12:06 PM   in response to: writeranne in response to: writeranne
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@writeranne

Wow - you actually close during July and August? I have actually never encountered a business in the US that does this, though it used to be almost a common practice in much of Europe for a couple of weeks to a month anyway.
vlgallas

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Re: A Refresher Course for "tag me", "review me", "buy me" posts
Posted: Jun 16, 2012 12:15 PM   in response to: inyun in response to: inyun
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I believe I have reviewed a couple of books that would be considered the same genre that I have books in, but same as lins777, I only review a book if I really like it. So all of my reviews are 5-star anyway.

I think you are correct and the rule was created to prevent attacks on any competing works. There was a situation on Amazon UK in which a couple of history professors (?) were ripping competing works apart with reviews a while back.
daysoldier

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Re: A Refresher Course for "tag me", "review me", "buy me" posts
Posted: Jun 16, 2012 1:27 PM   in response to: jeanetteraleigh in response to: jeanetteraleigh
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Every one of us who have posted a large number, if we
were to honestly go back and look, would have broken
one of those rules.

Jean, I don't think anne was trying to say we have to have a perfect forum here. I think we all like the relaxed nature of this forum in regards to rules.

However, when anne posted the rules, the front page was pretty much dominated by "share tags" and 'post your book" threads. That's not just an unintentional rule break... that makes the forum look like something it isn't.

When I first came to this forum, I made the mistake of posting in some of those "post your book" threads because I really thought it was more of an "introduce yourself and your book to the forum" kind of thing. I wish someone like anne had made a post like that back then because I honestly assumed I'd read the forum rules wrong when I came here... based on the sheer amount of promotional threads I saw.

Breaking the occasional rule in an unobtrusive way is one thing, but when a page is full of nothing but those kinds of posts, a new person gets the wrong idea about what this forum is for. When it gets that commonplace, I think it's good for someone like anne to post a reminder like this, just as an FYI to new people.
digilady

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Re: A Refresher Course for "tag me", "review me", "buy me" posts
Posted: Jun 16, 2012 1:34 PM   in response to: vlgallas in response to: vlgallas
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Like they enforce the current rules, you mean? ;) Unless they're willing to find (and pay) moderators, I wouldn't worry about too much changing.

One thing - how in hell do you post an image in here? Maybe they're upgrading their software - halleluja!

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digilady

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Re: A Refresher Course for "tag me", "review me", "buy me" posts
Posted: Jun 16, 2012 1:39 PM   in response to: vlgallas in response to: vlgallas
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vlgallas ,

Really good post. However, you use terms I'm not familiar with (sock puppets, .com the way it was used.)

If you'd like, could you write a history of these forums for inclusion the KDP part of my blog? Or if not, do you mind if I simply post your post?

It makes fascinating reading, and perhaps should be read by every newbie.

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digilady

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Re: A Refresher Course for "tag me", "review me", "buy me" posts
Posted: Jun 16, 2012 2:03 PM   in response to: inyun in response to: inyun
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Not for nuthin, but it could be that way again.

My forums (how I make my living, BTW - certainly not through writing :( ) are easily hundreds of times larger than these. Yes we get spammers - gone instantly. Flamers get a warning - three and you get a 3 day vacation. Other rule breaks - warning system applies.

How much do I pay mods to do this? NADA. ZILCH. People mod because they happen to love the community (10 years old this year.)

How do I find mods? They have to have posted for a certain amount of time, for starters. Then, those posts should be on-topic, or if not - funny! Of course they should be good at calming situations threatening to blow (hey, I have political forums, too. Debate no less.)

Could Amazon do this? Oh hell yes (though I don't know if this current board software permits mods at all, much deletion by someone who isn't the OP.) Wouldn't cost Amazon a dime. (I do give yearly bonuses, depending on how we did that year. Amazon doesn't even need to do that - or could run a special promo for a mod's book, I dunno.)

You're going to find a lot of crap in unmoderated forums, period. Make all the rules you like - unless you have QUALIFIED enforcers, what good will it do?

I read that longggg list of rules. It's ridiculous. Make a SHORT list - something people will actually read. Make them read it before registering for the forums - we sure do. Rule 1: no flaming another poster. Period. Having little knowledge of this kind of forum, I don't have any other ideas about rules. No pimping your own wares? I dunno. A forum just FOR pimping your own wares might work.

If Amazon ever reads these damn posts - get moderators, guys. It's easily done, it's free, and it will enhance your forums bigtime. It's that simple.

Here is my community: http://forums.jokersupdates.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?Cat= front page: www.jokersupdates.com . We're known for TV shows, interviews, and mainly - stop laughing dammit - Big Brother. We are THE number 1 Big Brother site world-wide lol!

Oh, and here are our rules (all 7 of them:) http://forums.jokersupdates.com/ubbthreads/faq_english.php?Cat=#rules

Mind you, 10 years now. Growing every year. I attribute it to the mods, the faithful users, the board software (really chosen by users, and my tech dude who modifies that board so much that it's won awards from the UBB people!

NO reason Amazon shouldn't have forums that work like that. They have a good user base from what I see - more and more join every day. Hello, they could put ads and make money! WE sure as hell do. (We have Premium accounts - 12 bucks a year - you see no ads, can ignore folks, and other goodies.)

It -all- rides on the moderators. ALL of it. Mine have been with me for years: last one I brought on was 3 years ago.

Amazon should start a thread "Who would make a good mod?" You couldn't suggest yourself, of course. Then change this awful software - (allow sigs! pics under poster's names, threaded views...) turn the mods loose - and let us enjoy these forums like it sounds like you used to.

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vlgallas

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Re: A Refresher Course for "tag me", "review me", "buy me" posts
Posted: Jun 16, 2012 2:29 PM   in response to: digilady in response to: digilady
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@digilady

The .com part was just me being lazy - it's Amazon.com forums, and the Kindle forum to be specific. Sock puppets are used in various ways, but on .com forums they were often used by authors to start threads about their own books, for example:

The thread title:

[i]I read Sock Puppetery 1 by Mary Moo and loved it![/i]

The post:

[i]I came across Mary Moo on this forum and her books looked so interesting that I had to buy book 1 in the new series. Sock Puppetry 1 link has to be the best book I've ever read. I can't wait till she finishes Sock Puppetry 2. Your fans await you Mary. You are such a skilled author that I can easily compare your writing to Stephen King.

I think it is still on sale too. What a deal![/i]

And often there's a review to match. This strategy was also used by said sock puppet to post a link to Mary Moo's book on many other threads. Such strategies were also often used with starting threads about the "best books I read in June" and they'd throw Mary's book link in with a few others.

Honestly, I am about to begin a new major project (today) and have no time to blog, except as related to the project. Feel free to post my post. No attribution necessary. If you do attribute to me, please quote exactly (copy/paste). Otherwise it doesn't matter. If I made a typo and missed it, please correct...
jeanetteraleigh

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Re: A Refresher Course for "tag me", "review me", "buy me" posts
Posted: Jun 16, 2012 2:40 PM   in response to: daysoldier in response to: daysoldier
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That makes sense. Because of the way posts come up through the ranks, I missed the background story as it were. :)
digilady

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Re: A Refresher Course for "tag me", "review me", "buy me" posts
Posted: Jun 16, 2012 2:58 PM   in response to: vlgallas in response to: vlgallas
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Pro at copy/pasting, me :)

I'll pop a post up here when done - you don't like, I'll change.

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pjrawls

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Re: A Refresher Course for "tag me", "review me", "buy me" posts
Posted: Jun 16, 2012 8:36 PM   in response to: writeranne in response to: writeranne
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Anne - sadly we live a bit further south than you to be regulars ;-)
We visited about a year ago on our trip to Orlando and Miami and came in twice. We had your pastrami sandwiches which rivaled the ones we've had in NYC. My daughter was very taken with the colorful decor. Your place and the European Bakery in Naples stood out for us because of the good food and the nice owners :-)
We'll probably return to your neck of the woods sometime in the fall and if so, I'll introduce myself.
digilady

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Re: A Refresher Course for "tag me", "review me", "buy me" posts
Posted: Jun 23, 2012 11:50 AM   in response to: writeranne in response to: writeranne
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Found another perfect post for the page! Anne, mind if I quote your top post? While I'm at it, would like to add you to the list (have seen you be quite helpful.) Where would you fit? Or should I start a new category, Authors?
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