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russelleh

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HELP WITH TABLE OF CONTENTS!!!!!
Posted: Jun 23, 2012 10:06 AM
 
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I am at my wits end. How can something that appears to be so simple, be so frustrating? Ok, I'm not good with HTML, I really don't know much of it and don't care too. I created my ebook in Microsoft Word 2007. I got rid of all the hard tabs and put in all the page breaks so that title page, copyright page, dedication, table of contents and all the chapters all start on their own page. I do what it says in the "Building Your Book For Kindle" directions to the letter. I highlighted all the chapters and made them all HEADING 1. I inserted the table of contents (on its own page) and formatted it the way they say in the instructions (no page numbers, set show levels to 1, click OK). Table of contents appears in the document fine. I bookmark it in word by going to INSERT, then BOOKMARK, then type in TOC and click ADD. Then I save the file as HTML and say YES when prompted . According to this procedure if you do it this way, when you upload it to your Kindle Previewer and do GOTO TABLE OF CONTENTS it should go to the table of contents I inserted. It doesn't. Instead I get an error saying table of contents can't be found! And I did exactly what they said to do. So does ANYONE know what the issue is. I want to upload my ebook to KDP and want it to look good and work well for readers! I've borrowed a few books that seem to have the same problem when you do GOTO, the table of contents is grayed out. So I guess I am not the only one with this problem? Can anyone one give me very simple step by step solution to this problem. Like I said, not good with HTML. First time trying to make an ebook. It shouldn't be this much of a pain. Also, my ebook is currently in HTML format. Can I upload it to Amazon in this HTML format and they will convert it? I haven't put the cover on yet either, does their online tool let you add the cover at time of upload too? I don't want people who might buy or borrow my ebook and have a crummy looking book, like....oh this guy didn't know what he was doing. I worked hard on the story. I'd like the ebook to look as good as possible! The buyers deserve a good product if they are going to pay money for it. I have attached a copy of the error I get in Kindle Previewer. PLEASE HELP! Thanks so much!!!
man2010

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Re: HELP WITH TABLE OF CONTENTS!!!!!
Posted: Jun 23, 2012 10:28 AM   in response to: russelleh in response to: russelleh
 
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This kind of conversion will not work in Kindle Previewer, but will work on the KDP website (you won't have to publish the ebook right away).

Don't forget to insert a bookmark or named anchor "start" where you want the "Go to: Beginning" function to be directed.

Upload your HTML file to KDP. It will ask you to upload your cover in the section "Upload your book cover". I recommend uploading a JPEG image 600 x 800 pixels if you want your cover to work as a full-screen image on the vast majority of Kindle devices.

After you finish those steps, KDP will place a .mobi file in the "enhanced previewer" section. Download that .mobi file and you will see in Kindle Previewer that your table of contents link works (Go to: Table of contents) and so does your "Go to: Beginning". Your "Go to: Cover" will not work if the "Devices" menu of Kindle Previewer is set to "Kindle Fire". But your cover link will work with other devices. (You have no other choice but ignore this bug, most likely it's a bug in Kindle Previewer.)

On KDP, in the "simple previewer", you will see that all three links work: Beginning, Table of Contents, and Cover. Don't use the "simple previewer" for any other purpose because it has way too many bugs.
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Re: HELP WITH TABLE OF CONTENTS!!!!!
Posted: Jun 23, 2012 10:37 AM   in response to: russelleh in response to: russelleh
 
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To answer your query about the cover - when you upload the book, you can also upload the cover image.

I'm not familiar with Word 2007, however you can upload an HTML document to KDP - you will need to zip it first.

If you don't mind hand-writing HTML, the TOC isn't too hard to do, you can create one with the following HTML:

<div id="TOC">
<br>
<b>Book Title</b><br>
<br>Contents<br>
<ul>
<li><a href="#one">Chapter One</a></li>
<li><a href="#two">Chapter Two</a></li>
</ul>
</div>

This will show two items in the contents, Chapter One and Chapter Two.
Just add as many <li...> items as you need.

In the body of the book, put

<a name="one"/>

before the start of chapter one and

<a name="two"/>

before the start of chapter two, and so on for the other items in the contents.


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russelleh

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Re: HELP WITH TABLE OF CONTENTS!!!!!
Posted: Jun 23, 2012 11:00 AM   in response to: tigerofdarkness in response to: tigerofdarkness
 
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I will give it a try and let you know. I am waiting for my cover to be finished so I can't try the upload until then. But thank so much for the tip. I hope it works!!!
russelleh

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Posted: Jun 23, 2012 11:29 AM   in response to: russelleh in response to: russelleh
 
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Any other advise would be appreciated.
russelleh

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Re: HELP WITH TABLE OF CONTENTS!!!!!
Posted: Jun 23, 2012 9:36 PM   in response to: man2010 in response to: man2010
 
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Thanks a million-Man. 90% there...did what you said and downloaded the Enhanced MOBI file and opened it in Kindle Previewer and it worked great...FINALLY. I even put the MOBI on the Kindle itself and all worked well on the real Kindle too. Only little glitch I'm still trying to work out is getting it to open right to the cover page as soon as you open the book. You mentioned a bookmark or anchor. How would I do that for an image? Not a big deal...but if you could help I'd GREATLY appreciate it!!! Thank again for GREAT help. It really is appreciated!!!
mrlasers

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Re: HELP WITH TABLE OF CONTENTS!!!!!
Posted: Jun 24, 2012 1:12 AM   in response to: russelleh in response to: russelleh
 
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<div id='start'><img src='image01.jpg'/></div>

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man2010

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Re: HELP WITH TABLE OF CONTENTS!!!!!
Posted: Jun 24, 2012 2:09 AM   in response to: russelleh in response to: russelleh
 
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You're welcome. I don't think you can make a Kindle book open to its native cover. The cover is not a part of your HTML file. You could make a second cover in your HTML file and place a start anchor there as Mrlasers suggested, but this is not the best solution IMO because having two covers inside an ebook is redundant and the second (HTML) cover won't work as a full screen image because it is not a native cover.

The best thing you could do is make the book open on a title page (place your start there).
russelleh

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Re: HELP WITH TABLE OF CONTENTS!!!!!
Posted: Jun 24, 2012 9:38 AM   in response to: man2010 in response to: man2010
 
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It opens to the Title Page already, so I will leave well enough alone! Thanks again!
russelleh

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Re: HELP WITH TABLE OF CONTENTS!!!!!
Posted: Jun 24, 2012 9:46 AM   in response to: mrlasers in response to: mrlasers
 
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Many Thanks, Mrlasers!!!!!!
divorcedoctor

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Re: HELP WITH TABLE OF CONTENTS!!!!!
Posted: Jun 24, 2012 8:07 PM   in response to: russelleh in response to: russelleh
 
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........all HEADING 1. I inserted the table of contents (on
its own page) and formatted it the way they say in
the instructions (no page numbers, set show levels to
1, click OK). Table of contents appears in the
document fine. I bookmark it in word by going to
INSERT, then BOOKMARK, then type in TOC and click
ADD. Then I save the file as HTML and say YES when
prompted . According to this procedure if you do it
this way, when you upload it to your Kindle Previewer
and do GOTO TABLE OF CONTENTS it should go to the
table of contents I inserted. It doesn't.

everything correct to here, so then zip the html, and zip again.

email to freekindle service and back comes the azw file.

it should have TOC working fine

or quick check just for TOC is double click html and check it in web browser.

all procedures are in detail in my books below, but you seem to have it fairly right - but forget Mobi as it is for losers.

if no freekindle you can send me html and I will send you the azw

Bible on wordtokindle [1] US - Bible on wordtokindle [2] US -
Bible on wordtokindle [1] UK - Bible on wordtokindle [2] UK
mixus

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Re: HELP WITH TABLE OF CONTENTS!!!!!
Posted: Jun 24, 2012 8:51 PM   in response to: russelleh in response to: russelleh
 
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A tried and true method to do with any formatting problem, including ToC for me is to always rely on the "smashwords styling guide". You can freely download this guide from their site.

Once you have formatted according to that guide, save a "master copy" and use that master copy to format to kindle format.

The original formatting eliminates any problems with the Kindle formatting. The "smashwords styling guide" is a very valuable tool.
divorcedoctor

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Re: HELP WITH TABLE OF CONTENTS!!!!!
Posted: Jun 24, 2012 9:49 PM   in response to: mixus in response to: mixus
 
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The "smashwords styling guide"
is a very valuable tool.

If you are formatting FOR Smashwords, YES but who would?

If you use the OPPOSITION software to format for Kindle you are totally stupid
mixus

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Re: HELP WITH TABLE OF CONTENTS!!!!!
Posted: Jun 24, 2012 11:04 PM   in response to: russelleh in response to: russelleh
 
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Who's talking about "opposition software"?

The style guide I mentioned is an instructional booklet.

Being an author, I tend to believe whats best and easiest for my product. my book, and myself. I find the styling guide to be the easiest way to present a completely clean master file that makes formatting to Kindle loads easier.

I was just presenting advice.
divorcedoctor

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Re: HELP WITH TABLE OF CONTENTS!!!!!
Posted: Jun 24, 2012 11:15 PM   in response to: mixus in response to: mixus
 
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kindle and smashwords are totally DIFFERENT systems, ESPECIALLY after the recent changes to KindleGen.

so if SW ever did work it sure won't work now.

like would a BMW mechanic use a Mercedes Workshop manual to work on a BMW?
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