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mrlasers

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Re: Formatting has changed since last Kindle update
Posted: Jun 26, 2012 8:57 AM   in response to: notjohn in response to: notjohn
 
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Aha! A use for KindleGen?

KindleGen has many uses, as we've been over many, many times.

Why, I wonder? Does it have something to do with the
Fire's utility as a web browser?

It's probably because KF8 readers are based on a web browser engine (WebKit)...

Seems to me that block paragraphs are a step back
toward web formatting. E-books are supposed to be
books!

...and it makes sense to not imply indentation. By making non-indentation the additive process, rather than indentation, the MobiPocket format created a lot of problems for content producers, especially those who are using tools like Microsoft Word. Correcting that with KF8 was an excellent, and long overdue, move.

Also recall that not all books have indented paragraphs.

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companionstar

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Re: Formatting has changed since last Kindle update
Posted: Jun 26, 2012 9:38 AM   in response to: at10uk in response to: at10uk
 
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Thank you for clearing this up. I was preparing my first ebook for publication right when this update occurred on my wife's Kindle.

Before the update, it was formatted perfectly on all devices and on the previewer. After the update to my wife's Kindle, the formatting was strange: small font size with no option to get a medium font size on the device (it would give you microscopic, tiny, small, still small, very big, and huge).

Kindle support did not think the problem was the update and referred me to KDP. KDP acted like this was the first time they heard of this and asked for files to analyze (which I sent).

In the mean time, I experimented with variations on html coding approaches and stumbled on the method to make it read fine on Kindles with the update.

To make the story short: I found that the formerly recommended "use MS Word to save as filtered html" approach is fraught with peril. It is better to strip out all the CSS formatting from Word, put in your own, and clean up every tag.

Too bad I didn't see this until after all my experiments.
notjohn

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Re: Formatting has changed since last Kindle update
Posted: Jun 26, 2012 1:31 PM   in response to: companionstar in response to: companionstar
 
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**It is better to strip out all the CSS formatting from Word, put in your own, and clean up every tag**

If you're willing to go to all that work, you would do better I think just to paste your Word doc into word2cleanhtml.com and then add the <html> and <head> opening and closing tags, and of course your style sheet.

You might call word2cleanhtm.com the clean nuclear bomb.
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Re: Formatting has changed since last Kindle update
Posted: Jun 26, 2012 2:01 PM   in response to: notjohn in response to: notjohn
 
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"You might call word2cleanhtm.com the clean nuclear bomb. "

Thanks for the tip--I'll try it out.

But I have to say that it actually ended up being fun to revisit html coding (something I hadn't done since 1998), and learn about this new thing called CSS.... ;)
notjohn

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Re: Formatting has changed since last Kindle update
Posted: Jun 26, 2012 2:57 PM   in response to: companionstar in response to: companionstar
 
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Yeah, I enjoy messing about with html.

word2cleanhtml.com frees you of all the search&replace, so you can concentrate on the fun part.

Alas, if I keep plugging the utility here, Mr Ope (Opp?) will figure out he can charge for it!
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