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frustratedovern...

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advice from old-timers on kindle price
Posted: Jun 26, 2012 9:01 AM
 
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I'm so slowly selling that I'll be dead before I read $10 at 35% royalty on $1.99.

What's the advisibilty of raising the price one dollar? That would at least put me in the 70% range and certainly be easier to live with. $2+ rather than $.70 royalty. So less sales maybe but would it even out?

Any opinions will be appreciated.
Renee
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Re: advice from old-timers on kindle price
Posted: Jun 26, 2012 9:22 AM   in response to: frustratedovern... in response to: frustratedovern...
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I took a look at your book (though it took a little digging to find it on Kindle--you should have live Kindle links on your blog, at the minimum!), and I'd suggest raising your price a dollar, yes.

For one thing, the royalty is higher, yes. But there are also readers who distrust the quality of a cheaper book--and sometimes they should, frankly--but your book seems well-written. I'm going to agree with the reviewer who said that some of the sentences in the begging (esp. the opening page) are awkwardly long; you might consider revising those, if you're ever in a revising mood, so a reader taking a quick peek gets immediately drawn into the story, especially since you start with a compelling situation.

I also noticed you have a second book, with rave reviews, that isn't available on Kindle. I'd fix that! I mean, put it out on Kindle as well. Another thing that helps authors is to have more than one book for sale--you look more serious, more established, more credible. And then given that ebooks sell better (at least for most indies), I think that one should be Kindle-ized. If it were I, I'd sell them both for 3.99 each, but you could start at 2.99 and wait a month or so and see if that makes a change from 1.99. (Currently, it seems out of print, with only a used copy available for $125. That's probably not gonna sell.)

Did you claim the Kindle version of Dangerous Secret from your Author Central page? I wonder if that would help it show up in searches. If I search "Dangerous Secret" Renee, you only come up as a paperback, even if I search in the Kindle store. That can't be helping.

Given how many other books are called "Dangerous Secrets," you might consider a subtitle too??
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Re: advice from old-timers on kindle price
Posted: Jun 26, 2012 11:26 AM   in response to: 1001nightspress in response to: 1001nightspress
 
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Thank you, 1001 (if I may be forgiven for using your first name :) )

I truly appreciate the kind words. But when I check it on Amazon it is listed as both a Kindle and paperback.

And I do have--or did have (that I'll check)--a link to the Kindle at Amazon on my website. I don't have a blog.

As to what may be confusing you: I did a major rewrite of the book I got such good reviews on because some people felt the French hard to read and because I found mistakes on my own. It was originally titled "Once Upon A Place" and that is what I removed from print.

Then I not only did a revised edition, I re-titled it, and added a new cover. And OUAP became Dangerous Secret. And I can't add a subtitle because it would involve too much more expense to redo the cover.

However, I will take your advice on the price. Please wish me luck and again thank you for your taking the time to check it out--why not consider purchasing it before the price goes up? ;)
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Posted: Jun 26, 2012 11:36 AM   in response to: frustratedovern... in response to: frustratedovern...
 
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My friends just call me 1000. ;)

Oh, so that's the same book! Gotcha. I didn't know that. You might add some of the glowing reviews then to your review section, and just say "These reviews refer to an earlier edition of this book, published as xxx by xxx, 20xx."

Sorry, by 'blog' I meant your website. But I mean, when I click on your book cover, it should zap me right over to Amazon.

When I searched by your title and name, I got first to the paperback, and only from that page could I find the Kindle version. Maybe it's just me, I dunno!
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Posted: Jun 26, 2012 11:56 AM   in response to: frustratedovern... in response to: frustratedovern...
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Something strange about psychology: people won't buy a cheap novel on Kindle.

My novel sells at $6.99-9.99. Never $4.99.
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Posted: Jun 26, 2012 12:49 PM   in response to: 1001nightspress in response to: 1001nightspress
 
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No, 1001, you're right. It does go first to the paperback then to the Kindle.

But--but--but, I'm a terrible computer "doer" so I don't know how to do it so that when you click on the cover image, it will go to Kindle.

Would you be willing to help me out there?

As for putting OUAP's reviews up, I tried that and did say that is was for the first version, and got insulting remarks about my "reviewing" my own books! But then knowing the Web, I overlooked them.

One thing the paperback version does have some pictures that I'm not swift enough on Mobi to know how to do the placemarks for pictures so I had to leave them off of the Kindle.

Couple of great alligator pics among them! :)

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Posted: Jun 26, 2012 12:52 PM   in response to: screenwriterjohn in response to: screenwriterjohn
 
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But what about raising the price of a lower priced novel? What would that say to people, do you think?

Unless they never glance at $1.99 ones anyway. Hard to know. But if you're getting over $4.99 maybe your book is in a more popular genre--pride won't let me say better written! ;)
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Re: advice from old-timers on kindle price
Posted: Jun 26, 2012 1:01 PM   in response to: frustratedovern... in response to: frustratedovern...
 
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Raising the price won't say anything to anyone. You're not selling to people who know the history of your pricing. You're selling to people who just heard about your book.

In other words, the people who buy your book will probably not have seen it before. The people who already browsed your book and didn't buy it already are not likely to have a change of heart. And even if they do, when they come back looking for it, they're not going to be appalled at the new price.

Personally, I think $2.99 is a minimum price for a well written novel on a kindle. $4.99 makes more sense to me, and once you have a little following, try to price subsequent novels closer to $8.99. I think that should be the ultimate target for all indie authors, though you have to have a "platform" to make a price like that work.
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Re: advice from old-timers on kindle price
Posted: Jun 26, 2012 1:15 PM   in response to: frustratedovern... in response to: frustratedovern...
 
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Frustrated.

go to Bookshelf>Actions>View your book's page (or whatever it is they say)

Use that link on your web page, and it should go directly to your Kindle.
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Posted: Jun 26, 2012 1:20 PM   in response to: politeia in response to: politeia
 
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Thank you, politeia. I guess I'll do as 1001 suggested and try $2.99 just to see. Then maybe go up?

I'd love to make more than seventy cents!!

Also I should ask 1001, if she/he thinks it's really worth rewriting the beginning? I can do it, I suppose. I'm just kinda leery but hey! That's what writing is all about, right--rewrite?

Although the present opening went through a lot of rewrites before I used it. I guess I need more of a grabber.

Renee
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1001nightspress

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Re: advice from old-timers on kindle price
Posted: Jun 26, 2012 1:47 PM   in response to: frustratedovern... in response to: frustratedovern...
 
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I don't know what blog system you're using, so I can't help there... honestly, I think the easiest thing to do is to stick an ad up on Craigslist or on a bulletin board at the local college and say you'll pay someone $20 or $25 an hour to come work on your website while you watch. Then you say what you want to have happen, and he/she makes it happen, and you learn how to keep on doing it for next time. Shouldn't take more than 2-3 hours to get a lot of neat things done.

What I meant on adding the reviews was to go to your Author Central account and then list them under product reviews. See the ones this book has? You know the author didn't write those.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Insider-Reece-Hirsch/dp/0425234622

(This is not my book; I just grabbed it as an example.)
dansontanner

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Posted: Jun 26, 2012 4:48 PM   in response to: frustratedovern... in response to: frustratedovern...
 
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Wait until after tomorrow to raise your price, my kindle will not be back in town for me to purchase it until then :).

You really do need to raise it. Seriously, I will buy it tomorrow, but you go ahead and raise your price, it's worth more.

Danson
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Posted: Jun 26, 2012 5:24 PM   in response to: dansontanner in response to: dansontanner
 
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danson, you're very kind. Thank you.

I'll go right now and try $2.99--like to try $3.99 but don't want to take advantage of you. :)

Renee
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frustratedovern...

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Posted: Jun 26, 2012 5:35 PM   in response to: 1001nightspress in response to: 1001nightspress
 
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1000--hope by now we're friends--:)

I went to that link and couldn't find any product reviews on his Author's page. Found a lot of "editorial comment" on the page itself.

At any rate, I can't/won't spend any more money on getting a better website. I'll just add the link to Kindle. At this point, I'm working on a mystery that will be set in the same town about 10 or so months later, with some of the same characters.

I've never written a mystery before so I'm taking it slow to try to do a good job. At least I'm beginning to know my characters and refine the plot. Structure is my bugbear now. But I'll keep at it.

So while I'd love for Dangerous Secret to take fire, I just have to leave it to do so on its own right now. I truly appreciate your saying it seems well-written. As I'm sure you know--it's easy to get close to a book you write!
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Posted: Jun 26, 2012 7:22 PM   in response to: frustratedovern... in response to: frustratedovern...
 
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SWMBO just called, I had her download it for me. She likes the look inside. $2.99 for a novel is still a bargain, thank you!
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