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1001nightspress

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What to do with extensive endnotes?
Posted: Jun 26, 2012 3:47 PM
 
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I have a POD book with a LOT of endnotes--like, oh, 30 pages. They're references, yes, but in some cases the complete text of memos or letters, or further information, etc.

It works OK with a print book, because the notes are referenced by chapter and page #. But in a Kindle version, there are no pages. This makes it a little harder...

I could list the notes for each chapter after that chapter, instead of all as backmatter. Or ... somehow link from the note back to the relevant section in the chapter?

Not sure what the best direction to take is.
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Re: What to do with extensive endnotes?
Posted: Jun 26, 2012 4:39 PM   in response to: 1001nightspress in response to: 1001nightspress
 
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They aren't actually endnotes but just narrative notes? You could put [u]Notes[/u] at the end of each chapter or anyhow the relevant chapters, with a hyperlink to that set of notes, and another hyperlink back again.

Or if they are numbered notes, then the same link as in a Word doc. Word actually converts pretty well for endnotes.

(I thought the KDP had made it possible for us to assign page numbers to the text?)
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Re: What to do with extensive endnotes?
Posted: Jun 26, 2012 5:01 PM   in response to: notjohn in response to: notjohn
 
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I'd call them extended references. Most are author/publication/date, though some are longer. Currently they refer back to page numbers; however, the chapters do not have superscript numbers for footnotes, or anything like that. (I'm working off the previous edition of the text, put out by HarperCollins; they didn't do an ebook version though.)

I'm confused about adding page #s to a text... how is this possible? If the end-user changes the font size, then you lose your page #, no?
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Re: What to do with extensive endnotes?
Posted: Jun 26, 2012 7:13 PM   in response to: 1001nightspress in response to: 1001nightspress
 
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"Or ... somehow link from the note back to the relevant section in the chapter?"

The other way round. When a person sees a footnote number within the text, make it so they can click on the number and be taken to the footnote for it. Then they simply hit the back button to go back to where they were reading.
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Re: What to do with extensive endnotes?
Posted: Jun 26, 2012 8:34 PM   in response to: punchygonzales in response to: punchygonzales
 
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That system would work if there were footnote numbers in the text--which there aren't. Of course, they could be added in, but I know the author was hoping not to do that (because it makes the text more difficult to read, and while it's a heavily researched book, it's not academic).
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Re: What to do with extensive endnotes?
Posted: Jun 26, 2012 8:50 PM   in response to: 1001nightspress in response to: 1001nightspress
 
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Footnotes make the text more difficult to read? News to me.
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Re: What to do with extensive endnotes?
Posted: Jun 26, 2012 9:43 PM   in response to: punchygonzales in response to: punchygonzales
 
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Well, depends what sort of 'look' you want. They definitely break up the flow of text, visually. I actually miss the older styles where footnotes would be at the bottom of each page. But then I'm more used to academic reading, and I want to check sources right away. This particular book is more ... I don't know even know the right word. Pop? It's not "light"--it's investigative journalism--but written in a very narrative style. Anyway, I can appreciate what the author means, and am just trying to find a good solution for him. The work was not originally conceived to be an ebook, but we'd like an electronic version.
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Re: What to do with extensive endnotes?
Posted: Jun 27, 2012 3:03 AM   in response to: 1001nightspress in response to: 1001nightspress
 
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    • I'm more used to academic reading, and I want to check sources right away.**

I used to read books with my right index finger stuck in the Notes section (now I use a Post-It Note). I love endnotes! Often I just read a page of them in advance so I don't have to keep moving back and forth. I would much rather see endnotes than footnotes, since I can't avoid looking down at the bottom of the page, even when I know it's just a page number.
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Re: What to do with extensive endnotes?
Posted: Jun 27, 2012 3:07 AM   in response to: 1001nightspress in response to: 1001nightspress
 
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**page #s to a text... how is this possible?**

I don't know, but there was talk about it last fall. And I do have ebooks where the page number is shown or anyhow available.

I don't see any now, however. Maybe a borrowed book.
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Re: What to do with extensive endnotes?
Posted: Jun 27, 2012 3:12 AM   in response to: notjohn in response to: notjohn
 
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Well, apparently not available to us. Says the Guidelines:

3.1.8 Text Guideline #8: Page Numbers
Kindle books do not always map directly to page numbers in physical editions of the book. For this reason, there should not be any reference to page numbers in the book. Page numbers should not be included in cross-references or the index. Amazon may make page numbers available for books as additional book metadata. Amazon generates these page numbers based on its own internal technology.

http://kindlegen.s3.amazonaws.com/AmazonKindlePublishingGuidelines.pdf
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Re: What to do with extensive endnotes?
Posted: Jun 27, 2012 9:15 AM   in response to: notjohn in response to: notjohn
 
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Yeah... I'm thinking that chapter endnotes migght work best, except for very long things like full texts of letters, memos, and longer bits of trial transcript. Those I could put in an appendix.
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