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P.M. Laidlow

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Re: Feedback for feedback
Posted: Aug 16, 2017 10:34 AM   in response to: Jack McEwan in response to: Jack McEwan
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If a reader actually reaches the end of your book, Amazon does flash a screen inviting them to leave a review. You can also place such an invitation in your end matter if you so desire. Customers who haven't turned off the "email me 50 times a day" default setting on their account preferences also get a "write a review" email from Amazon.

Three requests for a review is more than enough. If readers aren't doing so, they're either not reading far enough to see the requests or they are ignoring them. In either case, an email from an invasive author would likely provoke a review you would then be here complaining about wanting removed.

When you sell books, you exchange your work for money. When you give books away for free, you exchange your work for nothing. There's no "double standard," only unrealistic expectations on your part.
George Garrigues

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Re: Feedback for feedback
Posted: Aug 17, 2017 10:42 AM   in response to: Emily Veinglory in response to: Emily Veinglory
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Ha! Love it!
George Garrigues

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Re: Feedback for feedback
Posted: Aug 17, 2017 10:50 AM   in response to: Sim Pol in response to: Sim Pol
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Hello, and welcome. I looked over some of the negative reaction you have here from other people and decided I would check out the reviews for your book.

Well, I didn't go through them all, but I did click on one reviewer named "Amazon Customer" at https://www.amazon.com/gp/profile/amzn1.account.AEOYYPP77R6CQU5L65USKOSLMBNA?ie=UTF8&ref_=cm_cr_dp_d_pdp, and he or she seemed to be posting all the same kind of powerfully positive reviews no matter what the product.

That led me to the suspicion that this "Amazon Customer" is being paid for reviews. Is this true? Did you pay, and if you did, how did that work? If you didn't, please forgive me for being overly suspicious.

I hope to hear from you. Thanks.
Jack McEwan

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Re: Feedback for feedback
Posted: Aug 22, 2017 4:36 AM   in response to: Emily Veinglory in response to: Emily Veinglory
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A product is a product whether it is a book or some other item that is being sold on Amazon. Amazon strongly encourages customers to leave reviews for products they buy. I just don't understand why buying a book is any different. I am not talking about spamming people. A simple email such as "Thank you for showing an interest in my book, if you have time please leave a review." That is too much for you to handle? What do you do when the Verizon people ring your bell and ask if you want to try FIOS? Do you chase them off the front porch with a bat? I think most people are friendly and approachable and would not be put off with a one-time polite email. I think some of you people are spending too much time alone in the house writing and have become grouchy hermits. Jeez, put on smile and be happy to engage with people.
Jack McEwan

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Re: Feedback for feedback
Posted: Aug 22, 2017 4:43 AM   in response to: George Garrigues in response to: George Garrigues
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No I did not pay for the review. I don't know who they are. They bought the book and left me a nice 5 star review. I leave reviews for 95% of all the items I buy on Amazon including books. I just think that leaving a review helps other customers make a smart buying a decision. Amazon is considered the benchmark for reviews for all products even if you don't buy it on Amazon. You just have to be sharp enough to spot fake reviews from people who are promoting a friend or family member's product.
Donna St Felix

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Re: Feedback for feedback
Posted: Aug 22, 2017 4:46 AM   in response to: Jack McEwan in response to: Jack McEwan
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Jack McEwan wrote:
A product is a product whether it is a book or some other item that is being sold on Amazon. Amazon strongly encourages customers to leave reviews for products they buy. I just don't understand why buying a book is any different. I am not talking about spamming people. A simple email such as "Thank you for showing an interest in my book, if you have time please leave a review." That is too much for you to handle? What do you do when the Verizon people ring your bell and ask if you want to try FIOS? Do you chase them off the front porch with a bat? I think most people are friendly and approachable and would not be put off with a one-time polite email. I think some of you people are spending too much time alone in the house writing and have become grouchy hermits.

When you go to a bookstore and buy a book, does the cashier ask for your name, address, phone or email address to send to the author? No one likes to feel like they are being stalked or that his or her privacy is being invaded. Same as if you were buying underpants. You bought it and that's enough.
beachgardener

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Re: Feedback for feedback
Posted: Aug 22, 2017 7:31 AM   in response to: Jack McEwan in response to: Jack McEwan
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Jack McEwan wrote:
A product is a product whether it is a book or some other item that is being sold on Amazon. Amazon strongly encourages customers to leave reviews for products they buy. I just don't understand why buying a book is any different. I am not talking about spamming people. A simple email such as "Thank you for showing an interest in my book, if you have time please leave a review." That is too much for you to handle? What do you do when the Verizon people ring your bell and ask if you want to try FIOS? Do you chase them off the front porch with a bat? I think most people are friendly and approachable and would not be put off with a one-time polite email. I think some of you people are spending too much time alone in the house writing and have become grouchy hermits. Jeez, put on smile and be happy to engage with people.

At the risk of repeating what several have said Amazon sends a polite request for a review, I don't have to pile in on the reader. As for the bat by the door, I am over seventy and live alone, you bet I have one. Usually I only have to interrupt the spiel and say "Thank you but no thank you" and shut he door. I also hang up on telephone solicitors as soon as I know who they are. On the other hand I talk to everyone open for a conversation at the grocery, on a plane, in the dentist's waiting room, everywhere. I am neither grouchy nor a hermit. I am a writer and proud and happy to talk about my books. It makes more sense to me to spend my time talking to people who may become customers than people who already have. B
Jack McEwan

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Re: Feedback for feedback
Posted: Aug 24, 2017 5:59 AM   in response to: Donna St Felix in response to: Donna St Felix
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No, but I also know that when I use my Barnes and Noble membership card or make my purchase with a credit card, all of my info, and yours, is strewn to the masses of advertising. We simply accept that these days. When you buy something on-line and they require your phone number, your phone number is now sold to a marketing phone list and re-sold over and over again. Have any of you complained to Amazon about their policy of sending you emails requesting a review for a product you bought? Did you accuse the person on the phone at Amazon of being a stalker? I went to the eye doctor the other day. They sent me a survey/review and politely requested if I had time, would I complete it. I did. Same goes for my dentist. Does that make them creepy stalkers? If the book I bought at the bookstore had a request to leave a review at their website, I would gladly do that for them. What's a few minutes of my time? You people must live by some hard and fast rules. Lighten up a bit.
Jack McEwan

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Re: Feedback for feedback
Posted: Aug 24, 2017 6:49 AM   in response to: Donna St Felix in response to: Donna St Felix
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If I sold you a computer on Amazon, I would have access to ALL your info. CC info, home address, phone numbers - both home and cell, full name, and of course, your EMAIL address so I could send you a request for a product review. We all accept that. And when you get the email for a request to leave a product review for the computer, you have the option of leaving a review or deleting the email. If I, the same exact person, was also an author and sold you a book on Amazon, and only had access to your email, then you would consider it out of bounds if I sent you an email requesting a product review on the book you purchased. Yeah, that makes sense......
tommy london

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Re: Feedback for feedback
Posted: Aug 25, 2017 8:56 AM   in response to: Jack McEwan in response to: Jack McEwan
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Seems a bit picky. I am welcoming reviews. Some of my titles and blurbs will vary with editions, but that is to make my books
easier to find on the Net. There are too many "tommy" sites, and too many about "2084". In fact, we have at least 12 books with
"2084" in title. They call this ambiguation. I actually do make money with my books. Some . Not all are for the mass market.
Some are only for a narrow audience of UFO, fairie, MIB, alien and archeology niche. Believe me, not always your cup of tea.
So, to just apologize that our typography standards are not that high. We are into content.

We also did buy other authors featured here. Some are "into" similar issues. Check that out. See what company you are
placed with. That tells you a lot about society. But you already know this. Right?

As a very basic concept, most of my "stuff" began in 1965 with a small book on ancient monuments by Arthur C. Clarke.
It had color photos. You may know about it. Can you see a pun coming?

Edited by: tommy london on Aug 25, 2017 8:58 AM
Ward Rogers

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Re: Feedback for feedback
Posted: Aug 25, 2017 4:38 PM   in response to: Jack McEwan in response to: Jack McEwan
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Jack McEwan wrote:
If I sold you a computer on Amazon, I would have access to ALL your info. CC info, home address, phone numbers - both home and cell, full name, and of course, your EMAIL address so I could send you a request for a product review. We all accept that. And when you get the email for a request to leave a product review for the computer, you have the option of leaving a review or deleting the email. If I, the same exact person, was also an author and sold you a book on Amazon, and only had access to your email, then you would consider it out of bounds if I sent you an email requesting a product review on the book you purchased. Yeah, that makes sense......

You are incorrect, young man. Were you an Amazon vendor, you would have very little information about your customer, and if the fulfillment were by Amazon, as so many purchases are, you would have almost none. As a vendor, you have the information Amazon allows. When a vendor sends an e-mail, it is through Amazon, which protects the customer's address. And, no, you would never have phone numbers; customers with complaints or comments use Amazon's Customer Service Desk. Vendors also pay for the services they have access to; with KDP, you have a free ride.

Your own obsessive posts validate the wisdom of keeping e-mail addresses confidential. If you want to communicate with your readers, start a mailing list, but do be aware that mailing lists are subject to very strict rules.
Jack McEwan

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Re: Feedback for feedback
Posted: Aug 26, 2017 7:30 AM   in response to: Ward Rogers in response to: Ward Rogers
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I have made purchases through Amazon and have received emails directly from the vendor. I have had vendors offer to refund all of my money and send me a new replacement product free, if I remove my negative review about their product, which I never accept. If their email is going through Amazon, wouldn't Amazon catch this serious violation of their policy? Once again, you are getting requests from vendors to leave a review of their product. If that product is a dictionary and they ask for a review of how you liked their dictionary, and you ask for a review of your product, a book you wrote, what difference does it make?

This conversation is turning into an "Abbott and Costello" routine. So allow me to end this conversation by saying that there are tens of thousands of people who visit these boards and only about 4-5 of you who disagree with my point.

Edited by: Jack McEwan on Aug 26, 2017 7:30 AM
beachgardener

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Re: Feedback for feedback
Posted: Aug 26, 2017 7:45 AM   in response to: Jack McEwan in response to: Jack McEwan
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Jack McEwan wrote:
I have made purchases through Amazon and have received emails directly from the vendor. I have had vendors offer to refund all of my money and send me a new replacement product free, if I remove my negative review about their product, which I never accept. If their email is going through Amazon, wouldn't Amazon catch this serious violation of their policy? Once again, you are getting requests from vendors to leave a review of their product. If that product is a dictionary and they ask for a review of how you liked their dictionary, and you ask for a review of your product, a book you wrote, what difference does it make?

This conversation is turning into an "Abbott and Costello" routine. So allow me to end this conversation by saying that there are tens of thousands of people who visit these boards and only about 4-5 of you who disagree with my point.

Edited by: Jack McEwan on Aug 26, 2017 7:30 AM


Making up your own statistics never proves a point. What you ask is not provided in the many services Kindle/Amazon offers for authors, their choice. Time to get over it and move on, find another way to promote your books. B
Jack McEwan

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Re: Feedback for feedback
Posted: Aug 26, 2017 8:01 AM   in response to: tommy london in response to: tommy london
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Well considering you were writing in 1965 and I was born in 1964, gives an indication of your age. Considering your arrogance and self-conceit by using my question to promote yourself, and also as a way to disrespect my inquiry, I would normally be insulted. However, at your age, and with your nonsensical rambling on of a lunatic mind, I will just dismiss it with the onset of dementia. Its time for your nap.
Jack McEwan

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Re: Feedback for feedback
Posted: Aug 26, 2017 8:02 AM   in response to: tommy london in response to: tommy london
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You should be a character in a science fiction novel.

Edited by: Jack McEwan on Aug 26, 2017 8:06 AM
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