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detectingfun

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Do not give your book away free! EVER
Posted: Oct 27, 2012 2:52 PM
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It is not marketing, it is degrading for you as an Author.
It does not promote sales.
It gets nothing for you.
whydoineedanick

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Posted: Oct 27, 2012 2:54 PM   in response to: detectingfun in response to: detectingfun
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It's the only way MOST authors will ever get read. Free ebooks work to Amazon's ultimate advantage. They'll promise the moon to indie authors, and maybe some authors will make it there, but 99 % or more will barely sell a copy thereafter.

I've learned.

I also don't sell. Still. But that's on me, not Amazon.
smutnut

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Posted: Oct 27, 2012 4:26 PM   in response to: detectingfun in response to: detectingfun
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I agree. Don't give it away for free. Go for 99 cents at the least if you have to. If readers are that cheap than let them write their own stories and read them to themselves. I've sold screenplays straight to video. I'm a horrible writer but got MAD chump change for screenplays. don't sell yourself short.
gldrummond

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Re: Do not give your book away free! EVER
Posted: Oct 27, 2012 6:33 PM   in response to: detectingfun in response to: detectingfun
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Just to throw it out here, I've seen more than one reader say something along the lines of "s/he couldn't sell it and is trying to give it away" when it comes to freebies.
whydoineedanick

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Posted: Oct 27, 2012 7:43 PM   in response to: gldrummond in response to: gldrummond
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I've said it before but I'll say it again. The difference between a book offered at 99 cents and the same one offered for free is ASTOUNDING, often the difference between no sales and giveaways that run in the THOUSANDS of copies.

Amazon has trained the ebook buyer to be vigilant and cheap. When it comes to the quality of literature out there, we will all soon reap what Amazon has sewn, if it isn't happening already.
nparkinson

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My book will be free when...
Posted: Oct 28, 2012 2:33 AM   in response to: detectingfun in response to: detectingfun
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...groceries are free.
whydoineedanick

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Posted: Oct 28, 2012 12:02 PM   in response to: nparkinson in response to: nparkinson
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Thanks for killing the thread with your silliness, Parkinson. You're a big help.
mixus

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Re: Do not give your book away free! EVER
Posted: Oct 29, 2012 8:10 PM   in response to: detectingfun in response to: detectingfun
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There is nothing fundamentally wrong with giving some books away for free. Streuth, even the large manufacturing companies give some products away for free, it's called "market research".

The biggest problem with indie writers is the practice of pricing your hard work at only .99 cents. The art of writing has always been a revered art and respected.flogging your work off at .99 does nothing but cheapen the art of writing.

The flow on effect is that purchasers are now expecting to buy cheap books which is damaging the publishing world, whether its the big six publishers or self publishing.. The other effect is its making the literary world a disposable commodity.

Free books is good. .99 cent books is damaging the literary art.
smutnut

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Re: Do not give your book away free! EVER
Posted: Oct 29, 2012 8:18 PM   in response to: mixus in response to: mixus
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This makes no sense. Once they have it for free, they have it. I'm glad you think you are so good that this will make you profitable, but I wouldn't ever review a book or even care about a book where the author disrespected themselves so badly that they would give me their work for free. Would you empty my trash or wash my car for free? Just curious. I could really use a paint job on my house.
mixus

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Posted: Oct 29, 2012 8:47 PM   in response to: smutnut in response to: smutnut
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No I will not.

Not even if you offered to pay me .99 cents.
williampinn

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Posted: Oct 30, 2012 6:18 PM   in response to: detectingfun in response to: detectingfun
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I'm surprised we make any money at all, given the fact that you can find so much free stuff on the web. All the classics are free, for instance. If you read those books, you would never have time to read anything else. To make matters worse, now there are thousands of free ebooks! I am not sure how to compete with free. Should I pay people to read my books? Maybe that will put all those free books out of business. They won't be able to compete against a price of $-1.00. My negative price will drive them crazy! They'll holler, "How can he afford to sell his books so cheap?"

Edited by: williampinn on Oct 30, 2012 6:20 PM
smutnut

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Posted: Oct 30, 2012 8:50 PM   in response to: williampinn in response to: williampinn
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Right but all that free crap isn't what you have to offer. i used to do all this affiliate stuff and then realized, what the hell am I doing. I'm going all this work for them and sooner or later I will get burned. This is about you, not them. Even if it's crap it's your crap and if people are buying it AND your other stuff, you might not be as bad as you think you are. Probably are LOL, but maybe not LOL...
williampinn

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Re: Do not give your book away free! EVER
Posted: Oct 31, 2012 11:01 AM   in response to: smutnut in response to: smutnut
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Up until the KDP program started, I made really good money with my books, but lately not so good. At the same time, I'm not surprised. Ebooks are becoming like websites. There was a time I had to pay to read my favorite website, but now I never pay. I can always find a free blog or site that has the content I want. I see ebooks going down the same path. I think that will be true for any electronic content. It doesn't mean you can't make money, but it's gonna be harder.
skyebluebooks

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Re: Do not give your book away free! EVER
Posted: Nov 1, 2012 8:00 AM   in response to: smutnut in response to: smutnut
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How are you selling your screenplays? I have several written and just haven't ever attempted to sell them.

CDS
skyebluebooks

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Re: Do not give your book away free! EVER
Posted: Nov 1, 2012 8:03 AM   in response to: detectingfun in response to: detectingfun
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I'm still wondering why you should or should not do this. I haven't done a giveaway and my book is steadily gaining in sales. Almost sold 300 for October and over 200 in September. And I have downloaded some of the free ones and just couldn't even make myself read them, they were so poorly written. So...my jury is out.

CDS

Edited by: skyebluebooks on Nov 1, 2012 8:05 AM
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