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okydok

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We can all find fault with about anything that is unjust.
Posted: Jul 4, 2017 2:44 PM
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Over the years I have received many unjust reviews and/or star ratings, most of which I brushed off with an, oh well. But lately I've received several that should have been removed. Reviews that wouldn't even stand up in a court of law as justified. One I just received, the person said, "I haven't had a chance to read this yet," and gave it three stars. Another read, "I'm going on a long business trip and picked up this for free." He went on to say, "I'll give it two stars for now and raise it later if I like it." Another gave me one star because she got the wrong book. Hers had a similar title. I know we've all had reviews like this, and thought Amazon ought to allow for their removal. Not a chance. To me that shows a pattern of disrespect for the hard working author that provide their content. Am I wrong?
Joseph M Erhardt

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Re: We can all find fault with about anything that is unjust.
Posted: Jul 4, 2017 3:38 PM   in response to: okydok in response to: okydok
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Not disrespect--more like no interest in getting involved with the review topic.

In general, however, you're right.

But, being right and $6 will get you a nice coffee at Starbucks.
okydok

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Re: We can all find fault with about anything that is unjust.
Posted: Jul 4, 2017 3:50 PM   in response to: Joseph M Erhardt in response to: Joseph M Erhardt
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If no one stands up this unjust policy will continue. That doesn't bother you.?
Ward Rogers

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Re: We can all find fault with about anything that is unjust.
Posted: Jul 4, 2017 4:01 PM   in response to: okydok in response to: okydok
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Well, yes, you are wrong, but only for two reasons:
  • Reviews are none of your business
  • Opinions are always right
If you want respect, then take a job worthy of respect, one which takes skill and which not everyone can do. Anyone can publish a book, and, unfortunately, does.
Joseph M Erhardt

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Re: We can all find fault with about anything that is unjust.
Posted: Jul 4, 2017 4:08 PM   in response to: okydok in response to: okydok
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okydok wrote:
If no one stands up this unjust policy will continue. That doesn't bother you.?

The review policy is uneven, but there are far more important issues in the KDP universe, e.g., the proper counting of pages for titles in Kay Yu. Errors there actually result in the misdistribution of funds at Kay Yu payout time.
Notjohn

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Re: We can all find fault with about anything that is unjust.
Posted: Jul 4, 2017 4:14 PM   in response to: okydok in response to: okydok
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And a lot of us find fault with things that are just!

Good luck! -- NJ

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okydok

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Re: We can all find fault with about anything that is unjust.
Posted: Jul 4, 2017 4:35 PM   in response to: Ward Rogers in response to: Ward Rogers
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But, unfortunately, everyone can't write a good book. On that point I agree. I wouldn't be complaining if I wasn't a good writer. In fact a best selling writer. That's what's so humiliating about it. They care not, even though you make them bundles of cash each and every month. There is something wrong with that.
okydok

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Posted: Jul 4, 2017 5:02 PM   in response to: Joseph M Erhardt in response to: Joseph M Erhardt
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We all suspect that is happening at various times, but proving it is another thing. If anyone ever could maybe it would shake things up a bit.
Emily Veinglory

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Re: We can all find fault with about anything that is unjust.
Posted: Jul 5, 2017 12:36 PM   in response to: okydok in response to: okydok
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It doesn't really bother me because I realize that Amazon is able to provide us wit this sales platform because they are highly automated and very customer centered, The occasional shit review as a by-product of the system is not a big deal
beachgardener

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Re: We can all find fault with about anything that is unjust.
Posted: Jul 5, 2017 1:07 PM   in response to: okydok in response to: okydok
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okydok wrote:
But, unfortunately, everyone can't write a good book. On that point I agree. I wouldn't be complaining if I wasn't a good writer. In fact a best selling writer. That's what's so humiliating about it. They care not, even though you make them bundles of cash each and every month. There is something wrong with that.

No one, no matter how accomplished a writer, can please everyone all the time. I just had liver and onions for lunch and it was fantastic - but 95% of you just said YUCK. Amazon provides us with the possibility of readers, fame, and good reviews, it is unreasonable to require them to prevent desenters. Even the Constitution only promises the pursuit of happiness, not the catching of it. B
okydok

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Posted: Jul 5, 2017 3:18 PM   in response to: beachgardener in response to: beachgardener
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Sorry, but this isn't about liver and onions, of which I also love. This is about giving low star ratings to the liver and onions they never at or even knew was on the menu. Read my first post and you'll get a better idea what this is about. Thanks for doing that. I'm anxious for your response.
beachgardener

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Posted: Jul 5, 2017 4:12 PM   in response to: okydok in response to: okydok
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I have been reading the thread from the beginning and a lot of people have tried to explain to you that this is a fight not worth joining. You don't have to like the way the review system works, but it is Amazon's system and they seem to like it fine. Do accept that when you chose to write it is often an unjust audience we face, you are going to have to grow a tougher skin. Most bad reviews end up looking pretty silly sitting in a sea of good reviews. Some are obviously not talking about you - I got a one star from a purchaser who "thought I knew what the book was about but it wasn't" and in another instance, no, my book is not a toaster but he did give it four stars. With all the injustice in the world a few wonky reviews are way down on my list of things to be bothered about. B

Edited by: beachgardener on Jul 5, 2017 4:23 PM
Joe

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Re: We can all find fault with about anything that is unjust.
Posted: Jul 5, 2017 5:14 PM   in response to: okydok in response to: okydok
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okydok wrote:
If no one stands up this unjust policy will continue. That doesn't bother you.?

Stands up to what? Amazon is legally entitled to set up their review system as they see fit. You have no legal grounds to protest. Also, you signed the TOS to publish, which says you accept how the system works. Don't like it? Take your books down and go play in someone else's store. It won't be any better, by the way. In some ways, it can be worse. Have you seen the mess that is B&N's review section?
okydok

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Re: We can all find fault with about anything that is unjust.
Posted: Jul 5, 2017 7:03 PM   in response to: okydok in response to: okydok
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Why does everyone assume that I am complaining about a review. I beg you, I am not. What I'm complaining about is low star ratings when the book was admittedly not read - not one page - not one word. If you people think that is fair then I have no idea how you get along in life, letting people push you around unjustly. Well, I wasn't raised that way. My many books all have plenty of reviews and most are 4 - 5 stars and I plan to keep it that way. You wish to allow others to destroy your ranking, please do.
Emily Veinglory

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Re: We can all find fault with about anything that is unjust.
Posted: Jul 5, 2017 7:19 PM   in response to: okydok in response to: okydok
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No one assumed that, try reading the replies again and really understanding our point of view. Feel free to play Don Quixote, but people will still want bread.
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