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Richard Kapuaala

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Trouble posting to a thread in the community forum
Posted: Jul 6, 2017 6:45 PM
 
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I was trying to respond to a question someone posted on a thread I started and was told my response needed to be 'reviewed'
I tried a test response with a single word "test" and it posted fine.
Question:
Is there a character limit on responses? If so how many characters?
Is there a limit on the number of responses? If so how many?
Are there key words that trigger a review? If so what are they?
FYI,
No profanities in my response, no discourteous comments. It was all friendly, if you would like a copy, let me know and I'll email it.

BTW; I hope this is the correct forum. I can't seem to find a contact link for the forum admin.
Joseph M Erhardt

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Re: Trouble posting to a thread in the community forum
Posted: Jul 6, 2017 6:50 PM   in response to: Richard Kapuaala in response to: Richard Kapuaala
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There are a number of words that generate an automatic modding. It's all done by dumb bots. Human eyes eventually (sometimes?) review the post and it eventually (though not always) makes it back into the thread.

The words we know about are the following, which can be used if you munge them by including an asterisk:

na*ked
phar*macy
deter*mine (in various versions)
center*ing (who knows why?)
R*x
pres*crip*tion (may explain why "description" was a trigger for so long--they searched on "scr*iption" or some-such)
audio*books (though the singular may slip by okay?)
ti*ts (reported by another poster)

You will still see in various posts people writing the following this way:

char*acter
desc*ription
K*U or Kay Yoo or Kay Yu
Zon for Amazon

The word that still gets me as I type along, not thinking about it, is deter*mine. Gotta watch those deters, and make sure they don't mine you.
Richard Kapuaala

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Re: Trouble posting to a thread in the community forum
Posted: Jul 6, 2017 6:55 PM   in response to: Joseph M Erhardt in response to: Joseph M Erhardt
 
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Useful, but I don't have any of those words in my post. I will avoid them at all costs in the future though.
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Re: Trouble posting to a thread in the community forum
Posted: Jul 6, 2017 7:08 PM   in response to: Richard Kapuaala in response to: Richard Kapuaala
 
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Well, if you still have the original material you tried to post, you can do the binary-divide bit, viz., try to post the first half. If it doesn't go, you know the word's in there, so then try half of that.

If the first half goes, the problem is in the second half. Apply the same method. Binary divide methods will get you to the word in question in probably 3 or 4 divides.

Some years ago, maybe 10-12 years ago, I sent an e-mail to the members of my writer's group. It was something I did every two weeks (and still do). For some reason, that e-mail didn't go. It looked like it sent, but I never received my copy (the copy I sent to me). After trying various things, I figured that somehow a stray low-order ASCII character had slipped into the text somewhere and was destroying the integrity of the e-mail. So I did the binary-divide bit, splitting the e-mail into two parts (sending the parts only to me, of course, until I could figure out what was going on).

After about 8 divides, I discover that the e-mail didn't go through because it contained a forbidden telephone number. In this case, it was the legitimate number of a publishing co. out the in the Midwest, IIRC. But evidently under another area code, it had to mean something else. I tested this separately by manually keying a short e-mail that contained this number. That, too, failed. When I split the number with a space, the e-mail went through.

Totally freakin' bizarre. I had caught Comcast having its e-mail processing code trapping for a forbidden telephone number. For several days I wondered if there was going to be a knock at my door in the middle of the night by a bunch of black-clad, stern-faced men with few words and no senses of humor. Seriously.

On the other hand, maybe it was the number of the Comcast CEO's wife's paramour. Who knows?

Edit: Back to original topic: If a poster accidentally uses any of the forbidden words in the Subject of the thread, then all responses will be modded, unless a poster is sharp enough to spot this and manually change the Subject line of their post.

Edited by: Joseph M Erhardt on Jul 6, 2017 7:08 PM
Richard Kapuaala

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Re: Trouble posting to a thread in the community forum
Posted: Jul 6, 2017 8:59 PM   in response to: Joseph M Erhardt in response to: Joseph M Erhardt
 
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Unfortunately, I started my trouble shooting off on the wrong foot.
Assuming that I had accidentally tried to email the person, I navigated back (after copying the post) to the original topic and paid closer attention to what I was clicking on, ignoring the fact that there is no email option, of course.
Post number two.
Deciding that it was some random thread issue, I counted to twenty and wasted post number three on another attempt.
Realizing that it was none of those, I decided that there was some forbidden text or formatting in the content. Choosing the usual suspects, I deleted them one by one; post four, five and six.
I think I should not attempt a binary divide and irritate the forum admin further. I regret not doing it in the first place.
I'll wait, for a response to this thread, or for the post to be approved. It is not life threatening after all.
Now, my question is, if they approve it, will they tell me why it needed to be reviewed? Or will that also remain a mystery?
Notjohn

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Re: Trouble posting to a thread in the community forum
Posted: Jul 7, 2017 2:38 AM   in response to: Richard Kapuaala in response to: Richard Kapuaala
 
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Mysteriously, it also seems the case that if you spend too long on a post (say by Googling the subject to learn more about it), the post will be moderated. I can't imagine the point of that, but I've seen it again and again over the years.

Good luck! -- NJ

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Re: Trouble posting to a thread in the community forum
Posted: Jul 7, 2017 7:18 AM   in response to: Notjohn in response to: Notjohn
 
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On long posts, I now select and copy the text before I post, just in case it goes to Never-Never Land. That lets me give it a second try in another post.
Richard Kapuaala

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Re: Trouble posting to a thread in the community forum
Posted: Jul 7, 2017 1:17 PM   in response to: Joseph M Erhardt in response to: Joseph M Erhardt
 
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I do not think it was a long text. If it had been just a matter of spending too much time working in "Post Message: Reply", the same text would have gone through on my last 4 attempts at replying to the post because they were just cut and pastes.

The message passed review some time today and is appearing in the topic now. I received no confirmation or conclusions by the review team. It is difficult to tell exactly why it triggered the review process. I can say one thing for certain, the reply that passed the review was either modified, or one of the other five attempts at altering the text and resubmitting it passed. In either case I was able to identify what triggered the process. Keep in mind this is only speculation. Without confirmation from the admin or attempting to replicate the trigger event, nothing is certain.

The suspicious combination of characters was, "diary,,," without the quotation marks of course. It will be interesting to see if I can replicate the problem by submitting this reply.
Richard Kapuaala

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Re: Trouble posting to a thread in the community forum
Posted: Jul 7, 2017 1:18 PM   in response to: Richard Kapuaala in response to: Richard Kapuaala
 
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Nope, diary,,, did not trigger a review. But it is the only difference in the response that is showing and the response that I originally submitted. The three commas were removed either by me or the admin.
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Re: Trouble posting to a thread in the community forum
Posted: Jul 7, 2017 3:35 PM   in response to: Richard Kapuaala in response to: Richard Kapuaala
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I had a moment and took a quick look at your recent posts. There was one from July 6 that had the word "deter*mine" in it, and that would've gone to modland immediately. That was in the "Help on Blurb Please" thread.
Richard Kapuaala

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Re: Trouble posting to a thread in the community forum
Posted: Jul 7, 2017 4:22 PM   in response to: Joseph M Erhardt in response to: Joseph M Erhardt
 
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Thanks. When you listed those words with asterisks in them I understood it to mean you needed an asterisk in-between those words to trigger the review! I guess I should have asked more questions. I'll have to review your list with fresh eyes.
That is a crazy list of trigger words to parse out. Who deter#mine that I wonder? Unbelievable, I just tried submitting this without a pound sign and what do you know, it triggered a review!

Edited by: Richard Kapuaala on Jul 7, 2017 4:23 PM
Notjohn

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Re: Trouble posting to a thread in the community forum
Posted: Jul 10, 2017 2:33 AM   in response to: Richard Kapuaala in response to: Richard Kapuaala
 
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you needed an asterisk in-between those words to trigger the review!

Well, just the opposite. The asterisk fools the bots into thinking it's not a forbidden word.

Good luck! -- NJ

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