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Justin Sampson

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Paperback and spacing question please
Posted: Aug 7, 2017 7:35 PM
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Hi guys, how are you?

I was wondering if someone could confirm something for me. I put in the margin/page size and my 80k word book jumped to near 800 pages. But I was formatting it straight from a kindle manuscript, which I realise had double spacing. I changed it to single and got it down to 390. Yeah I guess it is dialogue heavy. Is single space then the correct thing for printed books? It looked nice enough on screen too, even though it single space.

Second question is on my Html filtered file, epub, mobi that I convert my chapter spacings above the chapter show up fine. I.e. there are like 4 line spaces above each new paragraph. Yet when converted by AMAZON, they remove the spaces above the chapter titles, yet the same line breaks I use to make those spaces I use to make spaces between the chapter title and the beginning of the chapter text, and these show up fine even after the amazon conversion. What can I do to get this past the amazon conversion?

Should I worry that much about it for my current book? Should I try to rectify it? Trying to upload updates takes hours and if you mess up the book that's bad :(

thanks for help.
Ward Rogers

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Re: Paperback and spacing question please
Posted: Aug 7, 2017 8:18 PM   in response to: Justin Sampson in response to: Justin Sampson
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You can answer the first question yourself. Go to your high street bookshop and pull from the shelves any number of books, paperback or hardcover, and see how many double-space books are issued by publishers. Actually, I'll just tell you. None. While you're at it, though, do note how books are designed, how they're put together. Title page, indicia, table of contents, justification, mirrored margins, proper pagination, recto\verso chapter starts, standard indents, etc -- all are expected by consumers of professionally published books; if you fail to meet those standards, customers will not give you a break just because you are a self-pubber.

Your e-book should look professional as well. And, yes, you're correct -- it does take time and effort to do it right. But if you're not going to do it right, why do it at all?
Notjohn

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Re: Paperback and spacing question please
Posted: Aug 8, 2017 4:52 AM   in response to: Justin Sampson in response to: Justin Sampson
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Ward's answer is one of the best I have ever seen on this forum, especially the last sentence.

More specifically: books aren't single-spaced. There is "leading" between the lines, typically 20 percent. That's the default in Kindle ebooks, so you don't have to do anything about that. But you have to handle the line spacing in a print edition. (Don't use KDP Print. It stinks. Use CreateSpace. And whatever you use, upload a PDF. Don't just fling a Word doc at it.)

The spacing of headings, and the spacing between a heading and the first paragraph of text, is handled by margin-top and margin-bottom. Both are available on Word and its free alternatives like OpenOffice Writer, but the surest thing is to mess with the html. See my blog.

Good luck! -- NJ

Notjohn's Guide to E-Book & Print Formatting

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http://notjohnkdp.blogspot.com
Theresa Hedges

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Re: Paperback and spacing question please
Posted: Nov 6, 2017 11:07 AM   in response to: Ward Rogers in response to: Ward Rogers
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Thank you for that reply! I''ve have the problem with uploading a .doc for paperback that in the preview, sometimes there were blank half pages in the middle of a chapter. Turns out my .doc was 1.5 line-spaced in Word and it had taken that line-formatting with it into the KDP template (which was single-spaced). Problem now solved.
It's great to have another 'pair of eyes' on a problem.
Emily Veinglory

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Re: Paperback and spacing question please
Posted: Nov 6, 2017 12:03 PM   in response to: Theresa Hedges in response to: Theresa Hedges
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In the set up area there is a link to templates which show some standard formatting that works well with KDP Print or Createspace for each trim size. I decided to just use those and they worked well.
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