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Esme

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1000 sold but 0 royalties
Posted: Sep 16, 2017 12:41 PM
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Why have I sold thousands and have a big fat zero in royalties?
I am seeing a professional on Monday but would like to give KDP a chance to respond.
Please explain.
Donna St Felix

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Re: 1000 sold but 0 royalties
Posted: Sep 16, 2017 12:46 PM   in response to: Esme in response to: Esme
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Esme wrote:
Why have I sold thousands and have a big fat zero in royalties?
I am seeing a professional on Monday but would like to give KDP a chance to respond.
Please explain.

Is it thousands of pages read, actual sales, free books? Please explain further.
Emily Veinglory

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Re: 1000 sold but 0 royalties
Posted: Sep 16, 2017 3:39 PM   in response to: Esme in response to: Esme
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The answer lies in your reports pages, most likely that you haven't sold thousands, you haven't set your price to earn a royalty, and/or you haven't waited long enough for payment to be due.
Notjohn

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Re: 1000 sold but 0 royalties
Posted: Sep 17, 2017 2:53 AM   in response to: Esme in response to: Esme
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What kind of a professional will you be seeing tomorrow?

Good luck! -- NJ

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Diana Persaud

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Re: 1000 sold but 0 royalties
Posted: Sep 18, 2017 5:14 AM   in response to: Esme in response to: Esme
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Esme wrote:
Why have I sold thousands and have a big fat zero in royalties?
I am seeing a professional on Monday but would like to give KDP a chance to respond.
Please explain.

Have you actually emailed KDP support? This is a forum for authors so no one from KDP will ever read your post. To contact them, click on the Contact Us link below.

I think Emily gave you the best answer.
Esme

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Re: 1000 sold but 0 royalties
Posted: Sep 18, 2017 7:59 AM   in response to: Emily Veinglory in response to: Emily Veinglory
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Hi
Please can you tell me who to email at KDP please? I have numbers sold in what countries but zero royalties.
I have just doubled the price of each book to see if that makes a difference...
Thanks
Esme
Esme

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Re: 1000 sold but 0 royalties
Posted: Sep 18, 2017 8:19 AM   in response to: Emily Veinglory in response to: Emily Veinglory
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It appears hundreds have borrowed my book as a free unit sold.
Plus hundreds read through KU and Koll- again free.

Total royalties on 4 titles under £20 for 3 years.
Emily Veinglory

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Re: 1000 sold but 0 royalties
Posted: Sep 18, 2017 8:27 AM   in response to: Esme in response to: Esme
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It appears that you don't understand how your sales reports work.

If you are in Select people can borrow your book. What is reported is individual pages read, which pays less than half a cent per page but certainly not free. Being in Select is optional.

Even if, at any point, your book was given away for free it is because you set your account up that way. If you account is not set up in the way you want, either fix it or get help from someone who knows how to do this.
Ward Rogers

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Re: 1000 sold but 0 royalties
Posted: Sep 18, 2017 8:47 AM   in response to: Esme in response to: Esme
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Esme wrote:
It appears hundreds have borrowed my book as a free unit sold.
Plus hundreds read through KU and Koll- again free.

Total royalties on 4 titles under £20 for 3 years.


Pretty good results for poetry. Most self-pubbers do poorly regardless of genre, but poetry does worse. You can double the price, if you want, but I fear it is twisting the knife.

It's sad that even after four years you haven't made any effort to understand the reports or bother to learn how to use them as an aid in marketing.
Notjohn

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Re: 1000 sold but 0 royalties
Posted: Sep 19, 2017 2:16 AM   in response to: Esme in response to: Esme
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Total royalties on 4 titles under £20 for 3 years.

As Ward says, £20 is actually a very good return for self-published poetry.

Put a fair price on your books, say $2.99 or $3.99, and consider the KU/KOLL reads as good publicity. And if someone actually does read through your book, you will indeed receive the per-page royalty from those borrows. (Personally, I stay out of Select and sell at other online booksellers, using Draft2Digital as an aggregator.)

Good luck! -- NJ

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R Butler

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Re: 1000 sold but 0 royalties
Posted: Sep 20, 2017 8:43 AM   in response to: Esme in response to: Esme
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Esme wrote:
It appears hundreds have borrowed my book as a free unit sold.
Plus hundreds read through KU and Koll- again free.

Total royalties on 4 titles under £20 for 3 years.


If you are seeing Page reads (KU AND KOLL) these are not free. You should receive royalties based on a proportional split of the KU pie (about $0.0042 per page read this month)

As to lack of sales and royalties, being in Select may have a small negative effect but based on the numbers you are talking about it is not the main issue. The issue is likely two fold, first the genre of book you are selling is not a high volume sales genre, it is a niche market that requires a strong pre-built readership. Second, are you marketing the book? Based on the sales volume I would suggest you are not or at least you are not marketing it effectively to the right readership. Books do not sell themselves, for most of us sales require persistent, focused marketing.
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