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tanzzee

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Re: Misleading Reviews against my Book
Posted: Oct 11, 2017 5:58 AM   in response to: Tinkerbell in response to: Tinkerbell
 
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Tinkerbell wrote:
Or throw virgins in volcanoes (if you can find them...)

Tink


Virgins or volcanoes? LOL

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Philip Lattimore

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Posted: Oct 11, 2017 10:44 AM   in response to: Nathan Leon Rob... in response to: Nathan Leon Rob...
 
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I think Amazon will flatly refuse to remove them... And, if you look to the horizon, a few more may appear soon...
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Posted: Oct 11, 2017 11:35 AM   in response to: Nathan Leon Rob... in response to: Nathan Leon Rob...
 
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Oh please, let's not bring the flat earth lunacy into the forums here. It's bad enough that it's all over Youtube and Facebook. And we have enough crap to deal with in here with all the spam that needs to be whacked.
Joe Baldizzone

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Re: Misleading Reviews against my Book
Posted: Oct 11, 2017 12:22 PM   in response to: Nathan Leon Rob... in response to: Nathan Leon Rob...
 
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Hey, I'm all for people putting what they believe into words - and selling books if they can. I also agree with those saying the people here are pretty brutal, and unnecessarily so. The OP has his/her beliefs. They're entitled to them. They're not offending any of us. At least I'm not offended. I don't really see a need for all the bitterness, but whatever... this is a reason I don't post a whole lot here. There are other writer forums where people are a lot more thoughtful and respectful. I guess the good in all this is that ya can get some unbiased honesty here :).

Anyhow... I find myself fascinated that intelligent, educated and articulate people really do believe the earth is flat. Almost makes me want to buy the book to see what kind of thinking goes into that. I did start a conversation regarding a flat earth on another forum and someone came up with this, which I'd like to pose to the OP. If you wrote a book on the subject, I'm going to guess you some sort of logical answer to this. If you start any serious marketing, these are things you'll be up against, so it's probably best you get used to it now....

"I flew too close to the edge of the Earth and almost out of our atmosphere"....said no aircraft pilot ever.

OP - how do you account for this never having happened?

madtal

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Re: Misleading Reviews against my Book
Posted: Oct 11, 2017 12:28 PM   in response to: Nathan Leon Rob... in response to: Nathan Leon Rob...
 
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Frankly I'd be more worried about the sarcastic 5 star reviews than the serious 1.
Nathan Leon Rob...

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Posted: Oct 11, 2017 1:41 PM   in response to: Joe Baldizzone in response to: Joe Baldizzone
 
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Thank you! I will toughen my skin, and take it on the chin when called for.

As for your inquiry to why a pilot has never flown near/over the edge, its b/c all flight patterns are a straight line between destinations over the flat and stationary earth. Never has anyone documented a circumnavigation of Antarctica, though someone landed the Moon...lol. The flight times between the destinations testify as the evidence. This is a topic that is quickly scoffed at (such as I initially did) and then just as quickly I scoffed was I humbled when I objectively investigated. Yahweh Bless!

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Re: Misleading Reviews against my Book
Posted: Oct 11, 2017 1:54 PM   in response to: Joe Baldizzone in response to: Joe Baldizzone
 
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Joe Baldizzone wrote:
Hey, I'm all for people putting what they believe into words - and selling books if they can. I also agree with those saying the people here are pretty brutal, and unnecessarily so. The OP has his/her beliefs.

Wait. "Beliefs" implies something that requires faith, right? Isn't that the definition of faith? The ability to believe in the imaginary? (That's verbatim from some dictionary, I don't remember which.) I'm all for people's beliefs, the ability to have faith in the unseeable or unknowable, or whatever.

However, the curvature of the eath is not subject to BELIEF. That's...anyone, as I stated in my post, can SEE the curvature, with their own eyeballs, in a plane. This isn't something that you can't see or touch, an intangible. It's a very real, simple thing. (Or...do FE'ers think that the moon is flat, too?).

They're entitled to them. They're not offending any of us. At least I'm not offended.

As I stated, I agree that people are entitled to their beliefs, around those things that are by definition unknowable. God and the like. I think I'd be very offended if that person were teaching in a school where my kids attended. Would you be okay with that?

I don't really see a need for all the bitterness, but whatever... this is a reason I don't post a whole lot here. There are other writer forums where people are a lot more thoughtful and respectful. I guess the good in all this is that ya can get some unbiased honesty here :).

(I don't think it's bitterness.)


Anyhow... I find myself fascinated that intelligent, educated and articulate people really do believe the earth is flat.

Aren't you making an inherent assumption there?

Almost makes me want to buy the book to see what kind of thinking goes into that. I did start a conversation regarding a flat earth on another forum and someone came up with this, which I'd like to pose to the OP. If you wrote a book on the subject, I'm going to guess you some sort of logical answer to this. If you start any serious marketing, these are things you'll be up against, so it's probably best you get used to it now....

"I flew too close to the edge of the Earth and almost out of our atmosphere"....said no aircraft pilot ever.

OP - how do you account for this never having happened?


Well, that's a variant on the question I asked yesterday--how do you account for the easily seeable curvature of the earth, that you can see at 41K feet, clearly? For that matter, if the earth is flat, why can you only see a distance of about 7 miles, out into the ocean? Why can't you stand in NYC, and see the Eiffel Tower, in Paris? Even with a telescope, or some other powerful lens? Since you can see the face of the moon, with a telescope, some 238,900 miles away--why can't you see the Eiffel Tower, from NYC? Or why can't you see Hawaii, from the west coast? Or anything out past about 7 miles? Hmmm???

I also really like your question, Joe. It's an EXCELLENT one. As someone married to a commercial pilot that flew pretty much everyplace--including the western Alaska coast (wherein, if you flew up to about 500 feet, you could SEE Russia), I'd love to know why my spouse never told me that he saw the edge of the earth. Why is that?

I'm going to bail on this convo now, as I suspect this is hopeless, but...one last try. ;-)

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Mrs Julia Evans

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Re: Misleading Reviews against my Book
Posted: Oct 11, 2017 2:01 PM   in response to: Nathan Leon Rob... in response to: Nathan Leon Rob...
 
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OK, these are serious questions. No sarcasm or mickey-taking, just curiosity.

If the earth is flat, where does the sun go when it sets? And how does it get back around to the east, ready to rise again the next morning? Where does it hide in between?

And when you have, for example, countries on either side of the international date line, how do you explain that you can take a sixty minute flight on a Wednesday and when you land it's gone back to Tuesday? I know how I would explain it, with my the 'world is round' theory, but can't see how you would explain it.

Just my musings. J
Wilai Lattimore

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Re: Misleading Reviews against my Book
Posted: Oct 11, 2017 2:08 PM   in response to: Nathan Leon Rob... in response to: Nathan Leon Rob...
 
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It would explain the mystery of Malaysia flight 370 - just saying...

And then there's all those socks! Where the hell do they all go?
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Re: Misleading Reviews against my Book
Posted: Oct 11, 2017 2:14 PM   in response to: Wilai Lattimore in response to: Wilai Lattimore
 
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Hi Wilai
For the socks I learnt that they find their way between the door and the rubber seal! And contrary to the flatness of the Earth, this is true :)

Robert

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Re: Misleading Reviews against my Book
Posted: Oct 11, 2017 2:17 PM   in response to: Nathan Leon Rob... in response to: Nathan Leon Rob...
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1. Amazon isn't going to removed those reviews. They are legit. It's their review.

2. To the folks commenting on the subject of his book - Flat Earth - well - who cares? He's not going to change his mind no matter how much "proof" you think you're giving him. Respect him as an author.

3. NEVER EVER NEVER EVER use the comments section to respond back to reviewers. As an author, be thankful and grateful they read your work - whether they liked it or not. The last thing you want is for other potential reviewers to see is YOU, the author, being a keyboard thug about the reviews others have left. No one wants to be accosted on the internet over a review when they think you should be grateful for having them to read your work in the first place. You should know this since you're a Flat Earth God Fearing Man.

4. That is all... Have a great day!
cdalebrittain

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Re: Misleading Reviews against my Book
Posted: Oct 11, 2017 2:20 PM   in response to: Nathan Leon Rob... in response to: Nathan Leon Rob...
 
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An interesting historical tidbit: Nobody in antiquity or the Middle Ages thought the earth was flat. They all knew it was a ball. Aristotle calculated the circumference. He underestimated, and Columbus used his numbers, which is why he (Columbus) remained convinced that he'd sailed far enough to reach India when he'd only gotten to the Caribbean.

It was obvious to all that the world was a globe from such things as ships going hull-down as they over the curve of the earth, of seeing the earth's shadow on the moon during a lunar eclipse, and seeing the sun move in a half-circle across the sky (they did think the sun circled the earth rather than vice versa). They worried that people on the bottom of the globe might fall off, not realizing that gravity depends on the planet, not some absolute up and down.

The "everyone but Columbus thought the earth was flat" stories started with Washington Irving, of Sleepy Hollow fame. Somehow what he wrote as a sarcastic anti-Catholic story made the leap into "history" taught to American school children. Europeans are taught nothing of the kind.
Wilai Lattimore

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Re: Misleading Reviews against my Book
Posted: Oct 11, 2017 2:21 PM   in response to: Nathan Leon Rob... in response to: Nathan Leon Rob...
 
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This thread made me think of 'Rendezvous with Rama', Arthur C Clarke's Brilliant book about a world inside a giant cylinder. Anyone read it?

Edited by: Wilai Lattimore on Oct 11, 2017 2:23 PM

Edited by: Wilai Lattimore on Oct 11, 2017 3:09 PM
madtal

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Re: Misleading Reviews against my Book
Posted: Oct 11, 2017 2:32 PM   in response to: Wilai Lattimore in response to: Wilai Lattimore
 
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Yes, but it's been a few decades.
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Re: Misleading Reviews against my Book
Posted: Oct 11, 2017 2:44 PM   in response to: zeta121 in response to: zeta121
 
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Thank you for your kind words! I'll remove my responses to the reviews. Yahweh Bless!
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