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david

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Sales gone bye-bye
Posted: Oct 13, 2017 6:36 AM
 
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I'm sure this is a relatively familiar bleat, but my sales have gone from good to virtually non-existent in the past two months. I've gone from selling 100 or more ebooks a day to 3 if I'm lucky.

This isn't a whine, but I could seriously use some help/advice please. Is anyone else suffering at the moment? I'm looking into Amazon Associates, monetising my blog and expanding into audiobooks etc, but for the past four years the Kindle sales on Amazon have been my bread and butter. It's a little harsh, not to mention frightening, to have that snatched away.

I'm also writing a new book to try and boost the sales figures - the only sure method to date I've been able to discover - but I'm not sure if the effort is worth it.

Thanks!
Donna St Felix

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Re: Sales gone bye-bye
Posted: Oct 13, 2017 7:02 AM   in response to: david in response to: david
 
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david wrote:
I'm sure this is a relatively familiar bleat, but my sales have gone from good to virtually non-existent in the past two months. I've gone from selling 100 or more ebooks a day to 3 if I'm lucky.

This isn't a whine, but I could seriously use some help/advice please. Is anyone else suffering at the moment? I'm looking into Amazon Associates, monetising my blog and expanding into audiobooks etc, but for the past four years the Kindle sales on Amazon have been my bread and butter. It's a little harsh, not to mention frightening, to have that snatched away.

I'm also writing a new book to try and boost the sales figures - the only sure method to date I've been able to discover - but I'm not sure if the effort is worth it.


I think everyone is down (well almost everyone). I blame it on the world events that have been going on. I've noticed also that the forums have slowed down.
I started running AMS ads and even with those going, it is slower than normal.
Donna St Felix

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Re: Sales gone bye-bye
Posted: Oct 13, 2017 7:03 AM   in response to: david in response to: david
 
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Replied and it went to mod*eration.
david

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Re: Sales gone bye-bye
Posted: Oct 13, 2017 7:06 AM   in response to: Donna St Felix in response to: Donna St Felix
 
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How odd? Thanks for the reply though! Hopefully it will show up.
writerbn

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Re: Sales gone bye-bye
Posted: Oct 13, 2017 7:26 AM   in response to: david in response to: david
 
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david wrote:
I'm sure this is a relatively familiar bleat, but my sales have gone from good to virtually non-existent in the past two months. I've gone from selling 100 or more ebooks a day to 3 if I'm lucky.
Have your books fallen off the 30-day "new release" cliff? There's also a 90-day cliff, but that effect is generally less noticeable. The only solution for that is to keep writing and publishing.

This isn't a whine, but I could seriously use some help/advice please. Is anyone else suffering at the moment? I'm looking into Amazon Associates, monetising my blog and expanding into audiobooks etc, but for the past four years the Kindle sales on Amazon have been my bread and butter. It's a little harsh, not to mention frightening, to have that snatched away.
I've found Ama*zon Ass*ociates to be practically worthless; it seems that most of the clicks don't register, and for those that do, the buyers are only purchasing other e-books (at least, for me). No big-screen TVs or other items that would actually be worth a few pennies in commissions.
writerbn

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Re: Sa*les go*ne b*ye-b*ye
Posted: Oct 13, 2017 7:27 AM   in response to: david in response to: david
 
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Mine was modded, too. Must be some new for*bidden words...
david

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Re: Sa*les go*ne b*ye-b*ye
Posted: Oct 13, 2017 7:32 AM   in response to: writerbn in response to: writerbn
 
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Perhaps I've broached an awkward subject...!
writerbn

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Re: Sa*les go*ne b*ye-b*ye
Posted: Oct 13, 2017 8:36 AM   in response to: david in response to: david
 
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david wrote:
Perhaps I've broached an awkward subject...!
No, it's just the bots performing their completely useless functions in attempting to stop spam, while the real spam continues to flow through, unimpeded.
david

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Re: Sa*les go*ne b*ye-b*ye
Posted: Oct 13, 2017 9:12 AM   in response to: writerbn in response to: writerbn
 
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Oh I see :/ Hopefully the original responses will come through eventually...
ClaesG

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Re: Sales gone bye-bye
Posted: Oct 15, 2017 7:13 AM   in response to: david in response to: david
 
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Nope, it's not just you. You pretty much just described my situation.

Yesterday my latest book was featured in two well-established writers' newsletters (generated 300-400 link clicks) + my own newsletter (200 link clicks).

Before all the current chaos this would have resulted in anywhere between 50-150 sales. I got 3 (which is around what I get without any promos at all).

I also got a bunch of 1 page reads (the non existent page-flip problem?).

Long story short, no it's not just you.

Unfortunately I see no way that this would change.
Every contact I ever had with KDP support have been very slow processes with investigations that always end with a canned answer that everything is working great and that I should not contact them again unless I have something new to say.

According to the top list I guess the answer to KDP success is illegal click farms.
david

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Re: Sales gone bye-bye
Posted: Oct 15, 2017 12:20 PM   in response to: ClaesG in response to: ClaesG
 
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I've had a similar experience with KDP Support. Granted, I'm just a drop in their very big ocean, but it's a bit disheartening to be fobbed off with standard answers all the time.

All these problems appear to stem from the revamp in spring. Prior to that I could more or less guarantee a certain number of sales per month, bolstered by new releases. It was a regular pattern and made sense. Now it's just chaos.

Edited by: david on Oct 15, 2017 12:20 PM
Traveler321

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Re: Sales gone bye-bye
Posted: Oct 23, 2017 12:13 AM   in response to: david in response to: david
 
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You may have had a very big recommendation from a site that you didn't know about that went away. or you might have had a top ranking in a google search that also went away. One position can amount to hundreds of views.
Notjohn

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Re: Sales gone bye-bye
Posted: Oct 23, 2017 3:57 AM   in response to: david in response to: david
 
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Many people complained that September was a dead month, but for me it was one of the best in a couple of years.

October by contrast has been rather gloomy, though it seems to have picked up the past few days.

If you have been selling books for years, entropy will of course have its effect. There's a shelf life on everything. Meanwhile, the number of would-be authors continues to climb, while the number of readers doesn't change a whole lot. For the first five years (2007-2012) there was a huge shift to ebooks from print editions. When the deluge of authors came with the introduction of Kindle Select (free promotions, wow!) prices started down. So 2012-2017 has not been good for us.

You can hold the line a bit by publishing paperback editions, audio editions, and of course staying out of Select and selling on Apple and other online bookstores. Amazon may be the largest bookseller in the world, but it's not the only one, and in many markets it is just a niche player. (Has anyone every sold a book on the NL Kindle store? Yet I have never met a Dutchman whose English wasn't as good as most of the people I meet downtown.)

(Don't trust KDP to publish a print edition. Don't trust CreateSpace to publish an ebook.)

Good luck! -- NJ

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lee3731

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Re: Sales gone bye-bye
Posted: Oct 30, 2017 9:09 AM   in response to: david in response to: david
 
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I have done more advertising for my The Forever Saints Fan Club in the past month, including local TV interview and a TV commercial that appears on YouTube Meet the Authors with Philip Levin and this did not generate one KDP sales. Very disappointing. My KDP sales for my Sisters Series has gone from 30 to 50 sales a month to 3 in the past couple of months. Have readers stopped reading Kindle books. Since it is affecting so many of us, maybe Amazon ought to investigate to try to find out what is happening. I inquired and did get a response with suggestions that might be helpful so I was not ignored.

LL Lee
Amazon.com/Author/lllee
Joseph M Erhardt

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Re: Sales gone bye-bye
Posted: Oct 30, 2017 10:51 AM   in response to: lee3731 in response to: lee3731
 
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lee3731 wrote:
I have done more advertising for my The Forever Saints Fan Club in the past month, including local TV interview and a TV commercial that appears on YouTube Meet the Authors with Philip Levin and this did not generate one KDP sales. Very disappointing. My KDP sales for my Sisters Series has gone from 30 to 50 sales a month to 3 in the past couple of months. Have readers stopped reading Kindle books. Since it is affecting so many of us, maybe Amazon ought to investigate to try to find out what is happening. I inquired and did get a response with suggestions that might be helpful so I was not ignored.

LL Lee
Amazon.com/Author/lllee


I wonder whether, in an effort to generate more bucks for the Zon, AMS has given established trad publishers a edge or two beyond having to match ad bids. But of course, we'll never know. :(

I do think the unrelenting Sturm und Drang of the current political situation has put a damper on recreational reading. The money today is probably in booze.
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